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*** AMD "Zen 4" thread (inc AM5/APU discussion) ***

Curlyriff said:
Exactly cause so many have already upgraded and getting enough performance with what have. Almost all AM4 users are better to just upgraded to a 5000 series and if just gaming then a 5800x3D to be exact. There is little reason to upgrade to either this generation for the vast majority of people.

Give it 6 months and the new x3D chips and those wanting the best gaming performance with their 4090's/7900xtx then possibly that makes sense then depending on how motherboard prices shift in that time. The higher end boards are parity with Intel/AMD. It is the low end where they got issues but those then still make sense with AM4 if current or yes a 13600k if you happen to need/want a new build.
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In EU that is no suprise due to the Putin war pushed electricty costs trough the roof.
Anyhow, amd knew zen3 am4 5800x3D would sell well as people could upgrade to a better cpu than Intel could offer.
Then as they unleash zen4 x3D in January people will jump on amd.
anyone that bought Intel will have a huge bad feeling called buyers remorse then.

Really happy with my 7600x as its blazingly fast
 
Are there any games that the 7700X struggles with?

Haven't tried many yet

Gonna try disabling control flow guard (CFG) for TW: Warhammer 3. unfortunately despite being the 3rd in the series, the performance is not that great.
 
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I mean its faster in a lot of cases but saying its trounced is just garbage.

Whats more interesting is its barely any better than a 5800X3D, bit of a lemon the 13900K.
 
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chroniclard said:
I mean its faster in a lot of cases but saying its trounced is just garbage.

Whats more interesting is its barely any better than a 5800X3D, bit of a lemon the 13900K.
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Yeah....

Boarderlands 3, another canned benchmark, we all knew the 5950X was a better gaming CPU than the 10900K, right?

No, wrong, according to computerbase the 10900K was the better gaming CPU.

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www.computerbase.de

AMD Ryzen 5950X, 5900X, 5800X & 5600X im Test: Benchmarks in Games (720p, 1080p, 2160p)

AMD Ryzen 5000 im Test: Benchmarks in Games (720p, 1080p, 2160p) / AMD Ryzen vs. Intel Core in 720p
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Its a pattern with them ^^^^ Intel always win, even when you know they don't.

Its like (Take Intel's result, add 20%)
 
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There's a lot of room to improve performance with tuning on the 7950X. If you are just running stock with no tune, there are some games that will misbehave/underperform with the dual CCD design.
 
LtMatt said:
There's a lot of room to improve performance with tuning on the 7950X. If you are just running stock with no tune, there are some games that will misbehave/underperform with the dual CCD design.
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Why has my L3 Cache latency gone from around 10ns to 13ns on the 5800X with the Win 11 22H2 update?

Are AMD aware of this? exactly the same thing happened, coincidently i'm sure, right when Intel dropped Rocketlake and again Alderlake
 
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humbug said:
Why has my L3 Cache latency gone from around 10ns to 13ns on the 5800X with the Win 11 22H2 update?

Are AMD aware of this? exactly the same thing happened, coincidently i'm sure, right when Intel dropped Rocketlake and again Alderlake
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Yeah, I saw some perf loss on Windows 11 too. I've rolled back to Win 10 for now until its fixed.
 
chroniclard said:
Do you think people are buying a 4090 to run at 720p? :cry:
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Do you think people are buying a 4090 to run at, below, or above 60 fps?
humbug said:
Yeah....

Boarderlands 3, another canned benchmark, we all knew the 5950X was a better gaming CPU than the 10900K, right?

No, wrong, according to computerbase the 10900K was the better gaming CPU.

Its a pattern with them ^^^^ Intel always win, even when you know they don't.

Its like (Take Intel's result, add 20%)
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You can't compare across outlets because you don't know what scenes they're using - just because the game has a built-in benchmark doesn't mean they are using it. Secondly pay attention to the settings and it will all make sense.
 
Poneros said:
Do you think people are buying a 4090 to run at, below, or above 60 fps?

You can't compare across outlets because you don't know what scenes they're using - just because the game has a built-in benchmark doesn't mean they are using it. Secondly pay attention to the settings and it will all make sense.
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Not getting in a "debate" in this sub :cry: I think you are being misleading, will leave it at that. :)
 
Poneros said:
Do you think people are buying a 4090 to run at, below, or above 60 fps?

You can't compare across outlets because you don't know what scenes they're using - just because the game has a built-in benchmark doesn't mean they are using it. Secondly pay attention to the settings and it will all make sense.
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What you can do is take an average from cross multiple reviews and compare that.

If you look at multiple reviews they all result about the same, your Computerbase results are way off all off them. A bit like Userbenchmark.
 
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