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*** AMD "Zen 4" thread (inc AM5/APU discussion) ***

They only drop if they wasn't worth the price beforehand. The 3080ti and 3090 are good examples of this compared to the 3080.

It's the same for phones, TV etc once near to being replaced they drop in price from what release price was

You should be looking at release prices not compare to something priced when near end of life about to be replaced
 
It's the same for phones, TV etc once near to being replaced they drop in price from what release price was

You should be looking at release prices not compare to something priced when near end of life about to be replaced
Thats why I used the 5700X in my example as it released for $300.
 
7950x clock speed released

  • 7950X Base Clock - 4.50 GHz (Stock)
  • 7950X Boost Clock - 5.70 GHz (Stock)
  • 7950X Peak Clock - 5.85 GHz (Stock)
  • 7950X All-Core Boost - 5.10 GHz (Stock)

Note: the Peak clock is only achievable when temperature is under 50c
 
7950x clock speed released

  • 7950X Base Clock - 4.50 GHz (Stock)
  • 7950X Boost Clock - 5.70 GHz (Stock)
  • 7950X Peak Clock - 5.85 GHz (Stock)
  • 7950X All-Core Boost - 5.10 GHz (Stock)

Note: the Peak clock is only achievable when temperature is under 50c
Thats interesting for comparision at 69% core usage (5950X) i am currently hitting 5.1Ghz at 46 degree. Not planning on upgrading till 3D or Zen 5 but almost tempted just for teh hell of it to see what happens. Graphics card first though
 
What games need more than 8gb at 1440p? I know far cry 6 if you want the high res pack i played without the high res pack and graphics were very good still..and flight sim 2020 at highest details i assume..What else?

Taken to this thread to avoid going off topic. :)

 
I find it weird that when AMD jumps to 5.7ghz, Intel hits 6. Did they both find clock boosts behind the sofa at the same time? Or was Intel sandbagging, because I know AMD's been chasing 5ghz for a while? If so, was this their trump card? Because AMD's trump card is V-cache, and if that gets beaten, I doubt there's another ace up their sleeve.
 
I'll preface this by stating I have zero interest in gaming:

Do we think the iGPU on the Ryzen 7000 will be enough to provide a decent desktop experience on multiple 4k monitors? From what I've seen some AM5 motherboards will technically have the necessary I/O for it. but wondering if I should factor in a low-end discrete GPU for a smooth experience.
 
I'll preface this by stating I have zero interest in gaming:

Do we think the iGPU on the Ryzen 7000 will be enough to provide a decent desktop experience on multiple 4k monitors? From what I've seen some AM5 motherboards will technically have the necessary I/O for it. but wondering if I should factor in a low-end discrete GPU for a smooth experience.
From what we know it should be RDNA2 based, supporting HDMI 2.1 and DisplayPort 2.0.
So I think its a safe assumption the iGPU could drive 2x 4k. Probably at 120+Hz
Maybe 3x, depending on motherboard
 
IPC figures for Intel's 12 and 13th generations, and Zen 4 (RPH):

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Zen 4 is generally ahead of the 12th gen, the 13th gen appears to have (slightly) better IPC than the 12th. In general, there's very little difference between Zen 4's and the 13th gen figures.

Note - I've no idea if these figures are genuine.
 
IPC figures for Intel's 12 and 13th generations, and Zen 4 (RPH):

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Zen 4 is generally ahead of the 12th gen, the 13th gen appears to have (slightly) better IPC than the 12th. In general, there's very little difference between Zen 4's and the 13th gen figures.

Note - I've no idea if these figures are genuine.

So Zen 4's IPC is 6.66, the number of the beast - confirming Lisa Su is the antichrist, I knew it! Running cinebench with Zen4 will open a portal to hell, allowing more Ryzen CPUs to escape into the world and beat Intel's market share.
 
So Zen 4's IPC is 6.66, the number of the beast - confirming Lisa Su is the antichrist, I knew it! Running cinebench with Zen4 will open a portal to hell, allowing more Ryzen CPUs to escape into the world and beat Intel's market share.
So that’s where the heat comes from?
 
Has anyone noticed that the 'total' doesn't appear to be a straightforward average?

For the specint total for RPH (zen 4), the mean would be:
7.047

and the median would be:
6.48

Maybe the total is weighted?
 
I'll preface this by stating I have zero interest in gaming:

Do we think the iGPU on the Ryzen 7000 will be enough to provide a decent desktop experience on multiple 4k monitors? From what I've seen some AM5 motherboards will technically have the necessary I/O for it. but wondering if I should factor in a low-end discrete GPU for a smooth experience.
My 5700G runs a 4k 144Hz monitor with ease, the iGPU in regular Ryzen 7000 won't be as good but it should still be able to handle it.
 
AMD will get a big GPU market share boost by having an iGPU, even if the PC's have NV GPU's. Some of the survey’s don’t distinguish between iGPU's and discrete GPU's.
 
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