It will most likely launch early next year. Unless Amd drops bomb and launches them during this year.
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They only released the 9800X3D early due to Intel releasing their new processors and after seeing what they had to offer I doubt they even had to bother lol
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AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D has been listed by first retailers in Europe - VideoCardz.com
AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D spotted in France and Lithuania The price seems higher than 7800X3D’s, but it is not final. AMD has yet to officially announce its Ryzen 9000X3D series, including the 8-core Ryzen 7 9800X3D processor. According to rumors, this is the only SKU launching on November 7th. With...
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High prices if these will be prices
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AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D has been listed by first retailers in Europe - VideoCardz.com
AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D spotted in France and Lithuania The price seems higher than 7800X3D’s, but it is not final. AMD has yet to officially announce its Ryzen 9000X3D series, including the 8-core Ryzen 7 9800X3D processor. According to rumors, this is the only SKU launching on November 7th. With...
High prices if these will be prices
Shock as AMD can charge what they like when Intel don't bring out anything competitive
but they only have 30% market share. how awfulShock as AMD can charge what they like when Intel don't bring out anything competitive
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Read it, they say it was up for 463 Euros, when they say the price is higher they are talking about the current discounted price, that being 419 Euros for the 7800X3D.
The launch retail price of the 7800X3D was 499 Euros.
The launch retail price of the 7800X3D was 499 Euros.
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AMD sets Ryzen 7 9800X3D review embargo to lift on November 6 - VideoCardz.com
AMD 9800X3D reviews go live the day before launch Plenty of time to make a decision. If there’s one thing PC enthusiasts aren’t fond of, it’s reviews going live at the same time as sales officially start. This timing often leaves little room to read or watch reviews in-depth before making an...
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AMD sets Ryzen 7 9800X3D review embargo to lift on November 6 - VideoCardz.com
AMD 9800X3D reviews go live the day before launch Plenty of time to make a decision. If there’s one thing PC enthusiasts aren’t fond of, it’s reviews going live at the same time as sales officially start. This timing often leaves little room to read or watch reviews in-depth before making an...
is a review embargo really necessary AMD, there is hardly any improvements this time round, 5-10% if lucky.
those who bought 7800x3d when they first released got amazing deals, that CPU is top performer for so long. This release cycle everything is all MEH with hardly any improvements both intel and AMD, neither CPU or motherboard are offering much over the last gen. Just a little faster ram and USB 4.
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a lot of posts are unnecessary too
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Which boards have an external clock gen at the mid range level?
ASRock B650E Taichi Lite is about the cheapest board with it.
For the price difference, I'd be more inclined to pick up a Asus ROG Strix X670E-E or F, they both have it. They both have the latest AGESA update available as well as of yesterday.
Best resource is here:
AM5 eCLK generator boards
www.overclock.net
External Clock Generator boards in this google spreadsheet:
AM5 Motherboards Sheet (X870/X670/B650/A620)
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Nice. Will do some research to see which one oc’s mem the highest next
Always going to be strangled by the Fabric clock.
Tight 6400 1:1 (which is really 3:2 with IF at 2133 works on just about any CPU I've seen), is more than enough for people who want a "good" daily "safe" setting.
I know you're a clocker Robert, just pointing that out for the lurkers here (there are many) waiting to build new X3D rigs.
2200 IF is still not guaranteed on every CPU, it does happen more often though with Zen 5 SKU's.
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Can you squeeze out more performance with the bclk? Hasn't really been spoken about since Zen1.
You can gain CPU performance but PCIE 5 and USB signals can be twitchy enough at stock. IIRC PCI-E did have some provision for variations in the BUS clock but that’s going depend on what else is connected.
Hey @RSR - three questions further to your posts above… asking as a noob!
(1) You have your memory speed at 8000, UCLK at 2000 and FCLK at 2200 - would the overall latency be faster / lower with the FCLK at 2000 because of this syncing with the UCLK? Have you tried this?
(2) Your RAM voltage seems high at over 1.6v - a lot of the guidance I’ve seen suggests that anything over 1.4v is ‘high’ but is that nonsense? What’s the limit on sticks like this?
(3) Do you have cooling over your RAM to support these speeds?
Sorry to ask! No need to reply!
(1) You have your memory speed at 8000, UCLK at 2000 and FCLK at 2200 - would the overall latency be faster / lower with the FCLK at 2000 because of this syncing with the UCLK? Have you tried this?
(2) Your RAM voltage seems high at over 1.6v - a lot of the guidance I’ve seen suggests that anything over 1.4v is ‘high’ but is that nonsense? What’s the limit on sticks like this?
(3) Do you have cooling over your RAM to support these speeds?
Sorry to ask! No need to reply!
1. Yes, the latency is slower. As the FCLK is the fabric speeds between dies and the UCLK is the speed from IO out to memory. Once, I have updated the UEFI I'll remember to post some screen grabs.
2. Short answer it's fine. Longer answer, without "High DRAM Voltage Mode" you are limited to up to 1.435 on DDR5. However, you may see some kits like my G.Skill kit which runs 1.45 out of the box. The enemy you have here is heat from the PMIC, that said AMDs memory tuning is a little less sensitive to heat than Intel which in part is due to the tREFI being limited to 65K. I have been running 1.6+ for the most part on some of my kits for over 2 years.
3. Yes, I have a 140 fan on blowing over those which I would recommend for DDR5 in general as it runs quite hot when it's being hammered However, I have other sets with custom heatsinks and water blocks which never really get above 40c even at 1.7+ VDD
Any more questions let me know.
A lot of people say this but it's completely false. They very much still have to convince people to buy, just look at their financials every Q (client sales are often limping). To say nothing of the fact that these performance discrepancies really only affect the enthusiast DIY market for the most part and most sales still go in OEMs and the like (to say nothing of laptop where AMD hasn't been able to ramp up adequate supply for years). It's true that they're bleeding Intel every year, more and more, but they're still far from dealing them a killing blow - hell, they can't even attain majority! Intel will have to stay at this low point for a decade before AMD can truly surpass them.Shock as AMD can charge what they like when Intel don't bring out anything competitive