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AMD Zen 5 rumours
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And he wants to just ignore the dozen videos he made a year ago saying Battlemage has been cancelled and Intel's discrete GPU division has been shut down
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It's hard to pay attention to redgaming no matter how accurate or inaccurate his claims may be because he single-handedly has the most annoying voice of any tech YouTuber
PCIE bandwidth affecting performance is a funny old thing to estimate
Take for example the above chart from TPU, it says PCIE gen1 only makes the 4090 lose 19% performance. So logically that means if I take a GPU that's 20% or more slower than the 4090 then that GPU should lose 0% performance on PCIE gen1, right???
And yet if I take a 3080 which 50% slower than an 4090 and then running in pcie1, it runs 13% slower! What gives???
This proves that even if your GPU maxes out the pcie bandwidth, it doesn't actually affect performance much and even if you throw in a much faster GPU it still doesn't affect it much, if you have are running in pcie gen1.1 and you have a 3080 and then buy a 4090 you still get a massive performance boost over the 3080
www.techpowerup.com
Take for example the above chart from TPU, it says PCIE gen1 only makes the 4090 lose 19% performance. So logically that means if I take a GPU that's 20% or more slower than the 4090 then that GPU should lose 0% performance on PCIE gen1, right???
And yet if I take a 3080 which 50% slower than an 4090 and then running in pcie1, it runs 13% slower! What gives???
This proves that even if your GPU maxes out the pcie bandwidth, it doesn't actually affect performance much and even if you throw in a much faster GPU it still doesn't affect it much, if you have are running in pcie gen1.1 and you have a 3080 and then buy a 4090 you still get a massive performance boost over the 3080
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 PCI-Express Scaling
NVIDIA Ampere finally brings PCI-Express 4.0 support to the high-end graphics market. The new interface promises twice the bandwidth of PCI-Express 3.0. We've setup an AMD Ryzen 3900XT system to test how various PCIe generations and lane widths affect gaming performance.
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Zen5 leak
Replacement for 7600x = 6 core/12 thread, TDP increased to 105w from 65w
Replacement for 7700x = 8core/12 thread, TDP increased to 170w from 105w
wccftech.com
Replacement for 7600x = 6 core/12 thread, TDP increased to 105w from 65w
Replacement for 7700x = 8core/12 thread, TDP increased to 170w from 105w
AMD Granite Ridge Ryzen Desktop CPUs Spotted: Zen 5 In 8 & 6 Core Flavors, 105W & 170W TDPs
AMD's next-generation Granite Ridge Ryzen Desktop CPUs with 6 & 8 cores based on the Zen 5 architecture have been spotted.
wccftech.com
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4k results is stupid for a cpu benchmark and you know it
Doubling down paying off:
I noticed he is now also view botting, I wonder when he started doing that sneaky ****
If you visit his website, it has his latest YouTube video embedded and automatically starts playing, meaning that random clicks to his website and Google traffic bots visiting that site will automatically trigger his YouTube video view counts to go up
Means nothing. An investment firm says don't buy Intel, maybe they do know something but don't want the stock price to go up, yet.
An investment firm does not care about your investments, it only cares about its own, it is not going to work against its self interests...
Intel shares similar sentiments; latest statement from Intels CEO is that they forecast Intel will not break even again until at least 2027, from now until then Intel will keep making a loss and that's not an analysts words, it's straight from Intels CEO
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AMD Ryzen 9 9950X CPU tested: Zen 5 chip is 46% faster in Cinebench R24 than Ryzen 9 7950X
AMD's next-generation Zen 5-powered Ryzen 9 9950X processor: 16-core, 32-thread Zen 5 chip is 46% faster in multi-threaded Cinebench R24 benchmark.www.tweaktown.com
41% IPC?
Anyway, after clicking through multiple links, because in 2024 "news" is when you just post a link to another news website, which posted a link to another news website and finding the actual source takes effort
And here is the original source of the performance claims, this video
The says the performance comes from 40% IPC increase and clock speed increase to 6.1ghz
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What instruction set does Cinebench R24 use? Cause RedGamingTech posted the bench numbers
If it's AVX512 then yeah I'd say it's probably not representative of overall performance cause it's being rumoured that Zen4 includes new advancements specifically for AVX512 and games don't really use this
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The way AI performance is measured now is all over the place
Intel for example is saying its next gen mobile system, called lunar lake, will be 100 tops.. way more than AMD's 25 right? The way Intel calculates is a 100 is they take the NPU performance then added the CPU cores performance, then add the GPU core performance and say hey guys it's a 100tops when you take the entire systems components into account
And then other companies like AMD just give you the NPU number, the 25 excludes the CPU core and GPU core AI performance and the other problem is there can be variance in the measurement of tops - for example some use INT4, some use INT8 etc, so there is no standard of what "1 TOPS AI performance" is
Intel for example is saying its next gen mobile system, called lunar lake, will be 100 tops.. way more than AMD's 25 right? The way Intel calculates is a 100 is they take the NPU performance then added the CPU cores performance, then add the GPU core performance and say hey guys it's a 100tops when you take the entire systems components into account
And then other companies like AMD just give you the NPU number, the 25 excludes the CPU core and GPU core AI performance and the other problem is there can be variance in the measurement of tops - for example some use INT4, some use INT8 etc, so there is no standard of what "1 TOPS AI performance" is
It will not be significant increase if it's not vcache, takes up too much space, memory stopped scaling ages ago, am5 is a tiny chip and ryzen 9000 is on a slightly better node than 7000, ergo there is no space for a major improvement in cache for non cache models
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