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AMD Zen 5 rumours

I agree it's stupid

Most people who buy this stuff are gamers give us what we want

At the bare minimum they should have given us the 9950x3d. Take your time on the rest but give us your best gaming chip at launch
 
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Most people aren’t interested in X3D. Its a niche product within a limited market.

Then Who buys all the desktop consumer CPUs? Because for a long time the best selling Ryzen on the market was the 5800x3d, even well after Ryzen 7000 was out the 5800x3d was the best seller at every store
 
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12 core zen5 is faster than 16 core zen4
while running at lower clocks and with just a 16% higher IPC in Cinebench as declared by AMD?

Seems highly suspicious
 
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9900x benchmark

14% faster than 7900x in CB R24 at stock and 18% faster with overclocking

 
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65 Watts for the 8 core, that's pretty wild....

Also, reviews for these should be no more than a week or two away now.

65 watts is pretty lame and you can see it in the score - 14% higher single thread score but only 7% higher multithread score because due to its lower TDP in multithread workloads the 9700x runs at lower clock speed than 7700x. For reference the 9700x has a 700mhz lower base clock than the 7700x. 9700x probably has some overclocking headroom if AMD lets us push the power on that model
 
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I just watched the KitGuru Video, they are claiming they only got 36.3 in R23, to me that seems really low, he also said that stock the 9950X got 42K and with some memory tweaking got 45K.

Does memory really make that much difference in R23? It would explain why there is a 6% discrepancy between KitGuru and CPU-Monkey, if KitGuru are running the memory at 4800 with CPU-Monkey at 5600, TPU maybe at 5200.


Memory should not affect cinebench scores at all in my experience
 
New news today: Zen 5 CPUs run around 7c cooler than Zen4 at the same power draw

AMD marketing slides says this is because of improved thermal resistance

Ok.. so an interviewer asked what does this mean, did they change the IHS? Did they change the TIM? Nope, AMD moved the position of the temperature sensor so now the sensor detects different hot spot, AMD says the old sensor was detecting temps that are unrealistic and says the new temps are more accurate

The interviewer then asked if this change was done to actually give users lower temps or if it's used to give the boost algorithm more headroom to run higher clock speeds within the 95c limit they set with Zen4. In other words; will zen5 users see lower temps or will their cpu still just ramp up to 95c? AMD refused to answer this question though
 
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Gamers Nexus says the delay is because some units are not running at spec - whether that's clock speed, ram speed, cache speed, latency etc who knows, could be anything.
Probably the issue is that some faulty units accidently got through validation testing and so the batch needs to be re-binned

Either way, with my own issues and seen how its only getting worse in the industry - it seems no one can launch new electronic products that are problem free anymore. I feel like going forward I have to not buy any product until its being on the market for at least 1 year so all the issues are worked out
 
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Zen 5 launch was delayed due to packaging spelling error. E.g incorrect model name printed on the IHS

 
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