AMD Zen 5 rumours

[Sythe79]

When i logged into Steam one day last week i got the offer to do the survey.. first time in about 5 years.

I decided to do it for the first time ever

I've got the 20-year service badge and have never, as far as I remember, been asked to do a survey.

I've never really thought about it, but if they don't ask, do they never use your hardware in the stats ?

 

[Nutty667]

I've got the 20-year service badge and have never, as far as I remember, been asked to do a survey.

I've never really thought about it, but if they don't ask, do they never use your hardware in the stats ?

Been on steam for similar time, and I've done about 4 or 5 hardware surveys that I remember.

 

[henson0115]

I've got the 20-year service badge and have never, as far as I remember, been asked to do a survey.

I've never really thought about it, but if they don't ask, do they never use your hardware in the stats ?

i think if you dismiss it originally they opt you out unless you opt back in as this was the case for me too.

 

[Yaayuh!]

I've got the 20-year service badge and have never, as far as I remember, been asked to do a survey.

I've never really thought about it, but if they don't ask, do they never use your hardware in the stats ?

If you opt out, i'm fairly sure they ask again. But like you, i've never done one, which is why you should take the survey as a loose guideline at best.

 

[MyBrainz]

Oh... snap, me too, i told them about my 7800 XT, lets see if it appears, it'll be mine, just mine, mine will be the first.

also, you have an Nvidia GPU, like Steam Hardware Survey doesn't already have enough of those????

Well it is what it is until AV1 encoding arrives at Twitch but people still say AMD sucks for DayZ which is part of the reason i switched to Ngreedia. I paid £445 for this 3060Ti which wasnt too bad at the time i bought it.

Im holding out as long as i can but thinking of doing the CPU itch first Wish we knew when Radeon 8800XT was coming as i think my 5800X3D is good for a while yet

 

[MyBrainz]

I've got the 20-year service badge and have never, as far as I remember, been asked to do a survey.

I've never really thought about it, but if they don't ask, do they never use your hardware in the stats ?

Im 14 years in.. think i did the survey when i joined and always declined it until last week.

I am sure they have ways to ID our bits without us knowing

 

[Dave2150]

9600X ES leaked

AMD Ryzen 5 9600X engineering sample gets overclocked to 5.7 GHz across all cores - VideoCardz.com

AMD Ryzen 5 9600X pre-release SKU under overclocking There’s an update to the leaked Ryzen 5 9600X engineering sample. Following the leaked AIDA64 score, the same leaker has now provided updated CPU-Z scores, confirming it can boost well beyond the last-gen CPU. The Ryzen 5 9600X is a 6-core...

videocardz.com

Expected a little more IPC increase stock vs stock - but this is an ES, so final scores may be higher.

 

[humbug]

9600X ES leaked

AMD Ryzen 5 9600X engineering sample gets overclocked to 5.7 GHz across all cores - VideoCardz.com

AMD Ryzen 5 9600X pre-release SKU under overclocking There’s an update to the leaked Ryzen 5 9600X engineering sample. Following the leaked AIDA64 score, the same leaker has now provided updated CPU-Z scores, confirming it can boost well beyond the last-gen CPU. The Ryzen 5 9600X is a 6-core...

videocardz.com

Expected a little more IPC increase stock vs stock - but this is an ES, so final scores may be higher.

You expected more IPC? Well..... that is a 0% IPC gain.

Wait for real reviews. I'm not sure VideoCardz or CPU-Z is to be trusted, CPU-Z might get one of those day 1 updates where it suddenly makes a difference where it didn't before

 

[Doop!]

All the specs are already here since a week ago..

Scroll all the way to the bottom.

https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/desktops/ryzen.html

..or

https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/desktops/ryzen/9000-series/amd-ryzen-9-9950x.html

https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/desktops/ryzen/9000-series/amd-ryzen-9-9900x.html

https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/desktops/ryzen/9000-series/amd-ryzen-7-9700x.html

https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/desktops/ryzen/9000-series/amd-ryzen-5-9600x.html

How come the new chipsets have fewer PCI-E lanes?

Additional Usable PCIe Lanes from Motherboard
X870E
8x Gen4
X870
4x Gen4
X670E
12x Gen4
X670
12x Gen4
B650E
8x Gen4
B650
8x Gen4

 

[G J]

I think it's in addition to the CPU as that will be PCIE 5?

 

[alec]

Expected a little more IPC increase stock vs stock - but this is an ES, so final scores may be higher.

7950X that boosts up to 5.7 scores 787 in CpuZ single
That ES stock clocks are lower than final

 

[jigger]

How come the new chipsets have fewer PCI-E lanes?

I’d imagine it’s because of USB4 using up some lanes.

 

[Grim5]

AMD has confirmed what we all suspected; ryzen 9000 CPUs are slower in games than Ryzen 7000x3d. AMD says you have to wait for 9000x3d to see improvements

AMD's Ryzen 9000 won't beat the previous-gen X3D models in gaming, but they'll be close — improved 3D V-Cache coming, too

Ryzen 9000's 3D V-Cache will get new features.

www.tomshardware.com

 

[Journey]

I think the 9600(X) is going to be a great chip once we see them at the sub £200 price, even more so if we see the 9500F variant. Only recently have the 7800X3D's dropped below £300, which isn't a massive sum of money, but I like chips cheap, and cheap chips, always have preferred the bang for the buck than just brute forcing performance with cold hard cash.

Been messing around with some of the 8xxx parts recently, and I am very tempted to swap out my aging 5700G for one, especially with the offers around on them right now.

 

[Firegod]

AMD has confirmed what we all suspected; ryzen 9000 CPUs are slower in games than Ryzen 7000x3d. AMD says you have to wait for 9000x3d to see improvements

AMD's Ryzen 9000 won't beat the previous-gen X3D models in gaming, but they'll be close — improved 3D V-Cache coming, too

Ryzen 9000's 3D V-Cache will get new features.

www.tomshardware.com

It does sound like it'll be close though. I'd need to see some benchmarks.

 

[Dave2150]

AMD has confirmed what we all suspected; ryzen 9000 CPUs are slower in games than Ryzen 7000x3d. AMD says you have to wait for 9000x3d to see improvements

AMD's Ryzen 9000 won't beat the previous-gen X3D models in gaming, but they'll be close — improved 3D V-Cache coming, too

Ryzen 9000's 3D V-Cache will get new features.

www.tomshardware.com

Not to sound negative, but to me AMD are scoring an own goal here. Launch of a next gen CPU should outperform the previous generation. While we know Ryzen 9000X3D is coming - the reviews/hype/launch would be so much more exciting if the X3D parts were coming at the same time as the non X3D chips.

Can you imagine NVIDIA launching RTX 5000 series with a 5090 which is slower than the 4090? With the caveat that a 5090 Super is coming a few months later which will be faster than a 4090? It just wouldn't happen.

I'll keep enjoying my 7950X3D until the 9950X3D launches and will pick it up on release, still excited for this!

 

[Grim5]

I agree it's stupid

Most people who buy this stuff are gamers give us what we want

At the bare minimum they should have given us the 9950x3d. Take your time on the rest but give us your best gaming chip at launch

 

[alec]

No bad product only bad prices.
If the to be released 9700X is slower than 7800X3D, it better be cheaper as well.

If all you get from a 9950X is a 16% uplift over 7950X, time to adjust flagship pricing

 

[Dave2150]

No bad product only bad prices.
If the to be released 9700X is slower than 7800X3D, it better be cheaper as well.

If all you get from a 9950X is a 16% uplift over 7950X, time to adjust flagship pricing

I paid £750 for my 7950X3D on the 28th Feb 2023. I expect the 9950X to be the same £750, probably more due to inflation.

9950X3D probably be close to £1k, if X3D is indeed much improved. Perhaps a X3D cache on each CCX, or a next gen hardware scheduler.

AMD know they likely have no competition from Intel for the X3D parts, so can charge whatever they want, people will buy it as it'll be the best.

 

[PeegeeTips]

worth pointing out that the 9700X is only a 65W preocessor - vs the 7800X3D with had 105W(?) and vCache to play with.

i presume that any 9800X3D will come with 105W, giving a it a bigger boost vis-a-vis its not vCache counterpart than is the case in the 7x00 generation.