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AMD Zen 6 rumours
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Is it confirmed that ZEN 6 is going to be compatible with AM5?
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It will be almost exclusively existing AM5 owners upgrading. 7800X3D > 9800X3D > 10800X3D for me. Don't mind if I do.
No officially but everything is pointing to it. A new platform is only necessary when DDR6 comes out. It would be near suicidal for AMD to release Zen 6 on a new platform.
I'm still on a 7950x, which I regretted and should have kept the 5950x. Hasn't been any reason to buy a new cpu for a while
Yeah, amazing what a good all-rounder the 7950x remains 4-years after launch. It still rips through everything I can throw at mine.
Yeah until games come out that need more cores and/or IPC any upgrade seems a little pointless. I only went Zen 5 as I had the opportunity to spend some money from my business, but my lads 5700X and 5900X still perform great with all games, unless you need more nvme drives or more RAM I cant see why you would move from AM4 let alone a 7950X on AM5.
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Same, TBH, 5800X just works and works well, its not at all found wanting in any game, great chip... except one, Star Citizen but that's not the fault of the CPU.
I mean 150 FPS in BF6 MP? yeah no problem.....
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I'm assuming that the single die platform of Zen 6 will be beneficial to software such as Ableton Live where on rare occasions you may suffer from latency issues due to the way it works with dual layer CCD.
I assume this may make it a little smoother than the 9900x for audio projects or video work and ripping.
I assume this may make it a little smoother than the 9900x for audio projects or video work and ripping.
Yeah, honestly my 9800x3d is wasted on me. I lock frame rate to 120 on all my games as have no need for anymore. Bf6 has so much room to breathe.
Unlikely to see that kind of performance with an equivalent Nvidia card though.
Driver overhead, with this CPU yes you're probabbly right, but is that the fault of the CPU? No...
The CPU just does what it does, providing cycles to the GPU, not for it 
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Hmmm... I thought the more recent schedulers were more capable of handling and managing cross CCD workloads?
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I believe they are, but if you don't optimise the system or are inexperienced I am under the impression that on rare occasions it can cause a hiccup.
Most home users with a DAW doing music courses possible examples.
Or simply due to background procecces, WiFi and such, DPC latency can occur. Most likely the sort of thing that could lead to core 0 trying to work with core 1 and causing a drop.
For instance my son will often be watching a stream, game open in the background, running Ableton Live while researching something, as his DAW is also his gaming pc. Then be scratching his head at something that didn't quite sound right.
For a professional using a dedicated DAW who has done homework and made sure settings are optimal can't imagine it being a problem. But for a casual approach to DAW work the 12 cores or more on a single CCD sounds like a better option than dual CCD.
The majority of this as a possible issue was gleaned from looking at Intel Vs AMD for use with Ableton live at the beginning of 2025 so as you say probably not anything to be concerned with.
Largely they are but there are still edge cases where it can cause issues - not just due to lacking end user configuration. Same with E cores on Intel - largely not an issue these days but still edge cases where the latency can be an issue.
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Lets just say, last year they changed Epyc to socket AM5, they are not going to want to **** off those enterprises, I think AM5 will be about for a couple of years yet, it may not be confirmed but its pretty likely and maybe even Zen 7.
Im surprised theres been no word of a new chipset and motherboards yet though.
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That's just one line of Epyc (4004/4005), not the high core count parts, it's more of a niche part used in edge devices like firewalls etc so not really a big issue if it changes.
Even for the big Epyc it's a non issue if it changes, as companies generally buy whole servers, not individual CPUs, and upgrades are much rarer than just buying a new server.
Reminds me when I used to work for a GSP - the datacentres we used would have options for RAM, storage or network upgrades but you'd have to migrate to a new system for CPU upgrades.
In our case we would just buy a new server, as the load on current ones doesn't really change much under the lifespan, for us - they are planned for specific use and when it's time for upgrade it's the whole box for the reason it's going out of support more than performance. RAM we do expand now and then (thanks to Devs these days creating more and more sloppy software gobbling ram for no reason).