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*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/mo...ice-performance-ratio-amd-ryzen-and-x370.html

Accorded to motherboard makers Ryzen will official launch in end Feb and ship in volume in March 2017.

I guess we all probably will have to wait for official reviews of final retail Ryzen CPU in Feb, Jan will be paper launch at CES.

So fed up of AMD being always so late all the time, they supposed to shipped chipsets to motherboard makers MONTHS AGO and would had plenty of retail Bristol Ridge APUs and AM4 motherboards hit retailers by weeks ago in Dec or a month ago in Nov.

Now we have to wait until March or later to able to buy retail Bristol Ridge APUs, Ryzen CPUs and AM4 motherboards.
 
Yeah I saw speculation on this before, and it's a shame. I figured January was optimistic, but March is a bummer. Still, if it turns out to be at 6900k levels of performance for 30-40% cheaper (as rumoured), then it will be worth the wait. Intel won't have anything new to compete with that (Kaby is just refreshed Skylake essentially, and all 2/4C) so they may be forced to drop prices on Broadwell-E. Time will tell, but fingers crossed AMD nail this in the performance stakes. We all win then.
 
RavenXXX2 said:
lol Intel drop prices. £700/800 zen aint going to disrupt ****.
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If that chip performs as well or better than current Intel's £1000 chip, then that would be disruptive, especially if we see similar leads/equivalent pricing across then board. It's all about being disruptive versus Intel's price stack, not what we as consumers would like to see. (who wouldn't love a 8c/16t chip at 4GHz+ with Intel matching IPC for £200 heh)

It will all depend on final clocks/performance/costs.

If AMD can launch a product thats within 5-10% of Intel on performance or even beats it out the box, and costs say 20-30% less, that will be disruptive as it will also affect how much Intel can charge.

This is where the core of this equation lies, and until we have all the figures, we won't know.

Obviously overclocking will be the cherry on the top, but it'll be the stock/boost clocks that really determine the day here, as the overclocking community is tiny compared to the OEM/System builder/Off-the-shelf premade PC market.

AMD can't undercut TOO heavily if performance is there or they risk devaluing their own stock and also not making the money they need. Ultimately they need to do well here to continue investing in R&D. A profitable and progressive AMD is better for all of us, whether we prefer Intel or AMD chips, because everyone benefits from said competition.

Simple fact is Intel has got complacent and is focusing on profit not progression right now, which gives AMD an ideal opportunity to catch up and relaunch themselves. No one expected the AMD64 to be as good as it was before it arrived, and Intel again were complacent, lets hope we see a similar thing here.
 
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Someone found on AT forums an Easter Egg in the CanardPC article and I confirmed it looking at a scan of the article(its on page 10).

The following code is seen in one page:

010110100110010101101110010011110100001101000000010000010110100101110010001111010011010101000111

Convert it on this page:

http://www.roubaixinteractive.com/PlayGround/Binary_Conversion/Binary_To_Text.asp

It gives you:

ZenOC@Air=5G
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Someone found on AT forums an Easter Egg in the CanardPC article and I confirmed it looking at a scan of the article(its on page 10).

The following code is seen in one page:

010110100110010101101110010011110100001101000000010000010110100101110010001111010011010101000111

Convert it on this page:

http://www.roubaixinteractive.com/PlayGround/Binary_Conversion/Binary_To_Text.asp

It gives you:

ZenOC@Air=5G
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For now I would like to think of that as pure rumour/pipe dream/joke easter egg. Don't want to get my hopes up.
 
Alexrose1uk said:
If AMD can launch a product thats within 5-10% of Intel on performance or even beats it out the box, and costs say 20-30% less, that will be disruptive as it will also affect how much Intel can charge.

This is where the core of this equation lies, and until we have all the figures, we won't know.
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Exactly, and it's the BIG unknown... just how well the Ryzen 8C will perform in a direct head-to-head with the 6900k. Everything pretty much revolves around this and it's all up in the air until we have the definitive answer. Will be interesting to see where the pieces land, but I am hoping AMD get this right.
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Someone found on AT forums an Easter Egg in the CanardPC article and I confirmed it looking at a scan of the article(its on page 10).

The following code is seen in one page:

010110100110010101101110010011110100001101000000010000010110100101110010001111010011010101000111

Convert it on this page:

http://www.roubaixinteractive.com/PlayGround/Binary_Conversion/Binary_To_Text.asp

It gives you:

ZenOC@Air=5G
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Nice, lets hope its true, if it is.............................:eek::p:):D:cool:
 
So if Zen 8/16 hit 5ghz on air (huge if) wonder where that puts the performance? If the 8/16 are clocked lower, the 4/8 and 6/12 you would think be higher clocked as well? If that was true, can only imagine what a 4/8 or 6/12 would hit on water...
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Someone found on AT forums an Easter Egg in the CanardPC article and I confirmed it looking at a scan of the article(its on page 10).

The following code is seen in one page:

010110100110010101101110010011110100001101000000010000010110100101110010001111010011010101000111

Convert it on this page:

http://www.roubaixinteractive.com/PlayGround/Binary_Conversion/Binary_To_Text.asp

It gives you:

ZenOC@Air=5G
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LOL seriously don't read into that, for your own sake.
 
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