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*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

http://wccftech.com/amd-confirms-ryzen-cpus-unlocked-overclocking/

All Ryzen CPUs will be multiplier unlocked and ready for overclocking right out of the box. There will be no locked Ryzen CPUs.

AM4 X370, X300 and B350 chipsets all support overclocking.

Ryzen CPUs will come in different configurations with varying core counts. The highest core count parts will have eight cores and support sixteen threads.

Ryzen will launch closer to the middle of Q1 or early Q1 rather than the end of Q1. AMD wouldn’t give us a specific date but sometime in February is a good bet.

AM4 compatible aftermarket air and liquid cooling solutions will be available on day one.

AMD gave a hint on launch date, it is closer to middle of Q1 Feb, closer to middle of Feb so let say early Feb 2017.

It seemed AMD had finalised Ryzen CPU stepping F4 base and turbo clock speeds and went through validation process then approved it for final retail volume production few weeks ago in December 2016.

We should see reviews in the next few weeks. :D

I would be surprised if stepping F4 will finally allowed Ryzen to reached 5GHz with all 8 cores enabled. :D
 
Well the problem is most of us purchased our sandy/ivy/haswell i5 / i7 chips a while ago for a great deal less than the i5/i7 chips on offer today. yeah, they are a bit faster, but they are a whole lot more expensive!

We all know the pound has devalued, VATs gone up, add a touch of inflation and maybe it kinda works out ish, but the logic doesn't really make the cost any easier to stomach :(
 
Well the problem is most of us purchased our sandy/ivy/haswell i5 / i7 chips a while ago for a great deal less than the i5/i7 chips on offer today. yeah, they are a bit faster, but they are a whole lot more expensive!

We all know the pound has devalued, VATs gone up, add a touch of inflation and maybe it kinda works out ish, but the logic doesn't really make the cost any easier to stomach :(

4 core i7's are up $80 since Sandy, take Inflation and a bit of price hiking into account its not really that big of a deal, what bugs me much more than that is Intel are still pushing 4 core CPU's in the top level branding i7 at a price to match.

Intel in the past decade Intel have been all about stagnation, not just with slight IPC improvements but also core counts, todays $350 i7 are not much better than $270 i7's from several generations ago, in fact i think Intel had 6 core i7's not much more than $350 back then which beat the $350 KabyLake now...

Intel need humiliating again.
 
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4 core i7's are up $80 since Sandy, take Inflation and a bit of price hiking into account its not really that big of a deal, what bugs me much more than that is Intel are still pushing 4 core CPU's in the top level branding i7 at a price to match.

Intel in the past decade Intel have been all about stagnation, not just with slight IPC improvements but also core counts, todays $350 i7 are not much better than $270 i7's from several generations ago, in fact i think Intel had 6 core i7's not much more than $350 back then which beat the $350 KabyLake now...

Intel need humiliating again.

But they're not, it's closer to 23-33 dollars, which is basically inflation given it's been 6 years.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/...-core-i7-2600k-i5-2500k-core-i3-2100-tested/2

https://ark.intel.com/products/family/95544/7th-Generation-Intel-Core-i7-Processors#@Desktop

I actually thought Sandy 2600K was cheaper, but apparently not.

But when they launched the 5820K they definitely made some progress, although they've certainly upped the price with the 6820K ; https://ark.intel.com/products/family/79318/Intel-High-End-Desktop-Processors#@Desktop
 
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Whatever AMD price it at for users on this forum it will be almost certainly "too expensive"... It seems these days everything is!!!

Are you serious?! Can you really blame people for being disappointed that anything that is priced in $ is now around 20% or more expensive for us? With the prospect that the pound will drop even further this is only going to make matters worse and price a lot of people out - myself included

That's a significant amount money for a lot of people. Especially if your doing a full upgrade.
 
The dollar rate is out of our control as is the pricing strategies of all the vendors.

We don't know what AMD's pricing strategy is yet, or do we? whatever it is if they think they can sell at Intel levels lol that will last about 2 weeks before prices come crashing down to reality.
With Intel's 6 core at £400 AMD's will not sell for more than £300 if the performance is similar.
 
Whatever AMD price it at for users on this forum it will be almost certainly "too expensive"... It seems these days everything is!!!

An inflated price because UK decided to take back its independence? Brexit I feel has been entirely justified by the recent terror attacks and a sentiment mirrored by America through Trump's election and Germany Merkel's unpopularity, as well as other countries considering leaving the EU as well?

The pound should not be as low as it is and we know it. So we don't pay your crazy prices because that would be stupidity. Let the companies involved be less greedy if they want to shift their products. My current cpu and graphics card work perfectly fine anyway. Others can bite but I won't. Stiff upper lip and all that.
 
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