*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

[pandem0nium]

Asrock tend to 'cheat' on their vrm phase counts by using a technique called doubling. There have been a few repoorts of AM3 boards with doubling supporting the fx 9590 but then failing because it's not enough.

I bought an Asrock FM2 board recently-ish. On the plus side it had more up to date features than any board by any other manufacturer (M2, Usb 3.1 gen 2). On the negative, overclocking was almost impossible because the vrms got very hot even at stock.

Also, who wants a board named after an unpleasant medical condition? (pro vd) (MSi, not Asrock btw)

 

[ubersonic]

My first stop is always to read the manual Bios section for clues as to overclockability.

The manuals for EVGA's X79 boards looked like they would support decent overclocking, it turned out most of them didn't even support stock clocking stably XD

 

[Silent_Scone]

Asrock tend to 'cheat' on their vrm phase counts by using a technique called doubling. There have been a few repoorts of AM3 boards with doubling supporting the fx 9590 but then failing because it's not enough.

I bought an Asrock FM2 board recently-ish. On the plus side it had more up to date features than any board by any other manufacturer (M2, Usb 3.1 gen 2). On the negative, overclocking was almost impossible because the vrms got very hot even at stock.

Also, who wants a board named after an unpleasant medical condition? (pro vd) (MSi, not Asrock btw)

We'd need to wait and see some scope captures under heavy load to know whether or not VRM efficiency is really going to be an issue on the 8 core (on certain boards). I can't imagine it will be.

 

[DragonQ]

The fact that the 1800X are meant to be binned is the reason I want to get one. XFR is great but I'd rather have a stable overclock of 4.4Ghz like my current i7 3930k if that is possible with Ryzen. I'll try and get another really good CPU cooler to go with it so hopefully I'll be able to get the best overclock possible.

When you say they are "meant to be binned", I'm pretty sure that's still 100% speculation. It'd make sense, although it's also possible that the only difference between the 1700X and 1800X is the higher stock clocks on the latter, purely for businesses and anyone else that doesn't want to overclock. It might also have a higher XFR limit or something.

 

[Panos]

The manuals for EVGA's X79 boards looked like they would support decent overclocking, it turned out most of them didn't even support stock clocking stably XD

hahah.

while the cheapest board of that period, the MSI X79 GD45 could overclock my 4820K past 5Ghz....

 

[pandem0nium]

We'd need to wait and see some scope captures under heavy load to know whether or not VRM efficiency is really going to be an issue on the 8 core (on certain boards). I can't imagine it will be.

VRM phases and temps on AM3+ was a very important and limiting factor for overclocking in my experience.

 

[Cromulent]

Asrock tend to 'cheat' on their vrm phase counts by using a technique called doubling. There have been a few repoorts of AM3 boards with doubling supporting the fx 9590 but then failing because it's not enough.

I bought an Asrock FM2 board recently-ish. On the plus side it had more up to date features than any board by any other manufacturer (M2, Usb 3.1 gen 2). On the negative, overclocking was almost impossible because the vrms got very hot even at stock.

Also, who wants a board named after an unpleasant medical condition? (pro vd) (MSi, not Asrock btw)

Ah. I was going on feedback from other people who said ASRock were really good. I currently have an Asus Sabertooth X79 which has been great. If Asus released a Sabertooth board for Ryzen then I'd be pretty happy to get that. Failing that I'll just have to off some overclocking reviews when they come out.

 

[pandem0nium]

I had a sabertooth R1 Am3+ board and it was great. Could get 333+ on the bus.

I also had an X79 rampage extreme black board though. When I RMA'd it it took 5 weeks and after that I just got a partial refund. Which would make me reluctant to go with Asus again.

I'll probs go with a gigabyte board, UD5 or similar.

 

[humbug]

The Z97 Gigabyte Gaming 3 has been good to me, as has the Asus Sabertooth 990FX before it, I want to try something else but both ASrock and MSI have been known to skimp on VRMs for AMD boards, fancy going MSI this time but i will do a lot of reading up on them before buying.

 

[Yaayuh!]

I've had Asus mostly in the past. My X79 Sabertooth has been awesome. Though the motherboard fans are VERY annoying. Can't wait to have a passive motherboard again.

 

[harney]

Going for boards with the lowest DPC

 

[Zeed]

I put it like that: I had 3 Msi X99 gaming 7 dead boards. I had 2x ASRock and Gigabyte X99 as replacement.

And i stayed on asrock fantastic board !!!!! Already outlasted MSI ones on same settings and volts.....

 

[Sargatanas2511]

My last 2 boards have been Gigabyte and haven't had any issues so I will probably end up going with them again. I currently have a Z77 UD5H and it's been rock solid, easy to overclock and simple to update/change.

 

[StarShock]

on the subject of motherboards, someone has just posted this on reddit

http://imgur.com/a/wlE7m

supposedly all the AM4 motherboards that have been seen so far

 

[ubersonic]

I've had Asus mostly in the past. My X79 Sabertooth has been awesome. Though the motherboard fans are VERY annoying. Can't wait to have a passive motherboard again.

This is probably a bit late but you know you can set profiles/curves in the BIOS or the Windows ASUS software yeah? You can make them inaudible without affecting cooling.

 

[bakes0310]

I've had Asus mostly in the past. My X79 Sabertooth has been awesome. Though the motherboard fans are VERY annoying. Can't wait to have a passive motherboard again.

Stay with Asus then, you seem a bit of fan, I just got my Asus board for my Skylake itx build and I think it's great.

 

[ubersonic]

on the subject of motherboards, someone has just posted this on reddit

http://imgur.com/a/wlE7m

supposedly all the AM4 motherboards that have been seen so far

Nice

I like the look of the GA-AX370-Gaming 5 and the MSI X370 XPOWER Gaming Titanium (though the MSI looks to have better VRM cooling so I would prob go with that between the two). Sadly none of the ASUS boards look up to scratch feature wise, hopefully they launch a surprise Sabertooth

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Who has the best longterm BIOS support though?? IIRC,Asus is pretty decent on AMD(I use an ASRock motherboard currently).

 

[humbug]

on the subject of motherboards, someone has just posted this on reddit

http://imgur.com/a/wlE7m

supposedly all the AM4 motherboards that have been seen so far

Thats a good solid collection of boards, some really nice ones there, i like the grey MSI one....

 

[humbug]

This one....