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*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

LoadsaMoney said:
AMD Ryzen CPUs pictured

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https://videocardz.com/66149/amd-ryzen-cpus-pictured
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mmmm shiny
 
Silent_Scone said:
Don't recall anyone talking about benchmarking? We're talking about overclocking. Overclocking to me is getting the most out of ones system that can be used practically.
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I agree, the key word you have used is "system". That to me includes all the hardware inside the box (and maybe outside). If having scope to use 40 x 100MHz or 25 x 160MHz, arbitary figures, and that makes for better performance, it is overclocking regardless of whether the processor has a much increased frequency. Ideally it would have course.:D
 
old gamer said:
I don't bother overclocking anymore as the only difference I saw was benchmarking and found that boring after a while
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It's been proven that OC'ing can see FPS improvements in games... nothing spectacular you may argue, but for the ease with which it can be done these days (and CPU's designed for it), it's a shame to just leave that performance on the table, so how far the Ryzen CPU's can be pushed will be very interesting to see.

That said, I do find benchmarking dull myself. I totally understand many do not however, but it's not what I'd ideally want to see discussion of Ryzen centered around, yet it's all we really have at present. I look forward to gaming head-to-heads with the 6700k/7700k for instance... that will be very interesting to see. All indications are that when it comes to applications that use more cores, AMD have got this sewn up against Intel in the price/performance stakes, but for a pure gaming set-up that's not so clear yet.
 
A low-clocking 16-threader would be really inappropriate for people who mostly game.

Reminds me of ending up with daft ill-fitting clothes from buying stuff without trying them on.
 
Spyhop said:
A low-clocking 16-threader would be really inappropriate for people who mostly game.
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Quite, yet the "MOOOOORRE CORES!!" aspect seems to get people excited, often without the awareness of what it actually means for their own uses. For a pure gaming rig, the high end Ryzen 6C/8C options aren't going to offer much for anyone who's bought a 4C CPU in the last few years if all they do is game (although some titles may benefit slightly, but hardly worthy of an upgrade in terms of value). The 4C option will be very interesting to see though, given how cheap it is vs Intel, and will (should) be the focus of anyone looking to build a new gaming system or upgrade something ancient. At this stage the real reviews can't come soon enough, still a lot unknown.
 
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I think most of the posters' interest in Zen tends more towards the gaming than the workstation and server market (with notable exceptions) so this isn't super relevant except for curiosity's sake... But nonetheless I think it's pretty cool...

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Legend said:
It's been proven that OC'ing can see FPS improvements in games... nothing spectacular you may argue, but for the ease with which it can be done these days (and CPU's designed for it), it's a shame to just leave that performance on the table, so how far the Ryzen CPU's can be pushed will be very interesting to see.

That said, I do find benchmarking dull myself. I totally understand many do not however, but it's not what I'd ideally want to see discussion of Ryzen centered around, yet it's all we really have at present. I look forward to gaming head-to-heads with the 6700k/7700k for instance... that will be very interesting to see. All indications are that when it comes to applications that use more cores, AMD have got this sewn up against Intel in the price/performance stakes, but for a pure gaming set-up that's not so clear yet.
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Agree I am very excited to see the head to head with the 6700k/ 7700k


Legend said:
Quite, yet the "MOOOOORRE CORES!!" aspect seems to get people excited, often without the awareness of what it actually means for their own uses. For a pure gaming rig, the high end Ryzen 6C/8C options aren't going to offer much for anyone who's bought a 4C CPU in the last few years if all they do is game (although some titles may benefit slightly, but hardly worthy of an upgrade in terms of value). The 4C option will be very interesting to see though, given how cheap it is vs Intel, and will (should) be the focus of anyone looking to build a new gaming system or upgrade something ancient. At this stage the real reviews can't come soon enough, still a lot unknown.
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Yes ...you never know the 4c chips may turn out to be little monsters and oc better then the higher core chips ...not long to go till we find out...
 
Heh, I had 10 cores and GOW4 still ran like an inconsistent stuttering mess. The only DX12 game I've played to date that ran with any kind of advantage is The Division. There's Doom as well, but even that runs better with Vulcan.
 
harney said:
Agree I am very excited to see the head to head with the 6700k/ 7700k




Yes ...you never know the 4c chips may turn out to be little monsters and oc better then the higher core chips ...not long to go till we find out...
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Yes, there might be more headroom for OC. Shame it seems to be only 8c at the release date though.
 
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