Caporegime
So that is where it came from ^^^^^^
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*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***
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Caporegime
Maybe X is for eXtreme? 
All the X series parts have a 95W TDP and the non-X parts are 65W TDP it appears?
All the X series parts have a 95W TDP and the non-X parts are 65W TDP it appears?
Soldato
With their graphics cards, X simply meant better. 290 vs 290X for example.Maybe X is for eXtreme?
Caporegime
Probably that then.
Bundles on another website suggest that the 1800X is indeed higher binned. The R7 1700 can be had pre-overclocked at 3.8 GHz, with the R7 1800X being available at 4.2 GHz (about what you'd expect from an i7-6900K).
It'll be interesting to see if the maximum clocks go up with the R5 and R3 chips, or with Zen+.
It'll be interesting to see if the maximum clocks go up with the R5 and R3 chips, or with Zen+.
Soldato
i wouldn't really go off that as if they clocked 'if it can' the 1700 that high no one would buy the 1800x
Soldato
Those three numbers seem a bit too "neat" to me. I doubt much effort was expended coming up with them.
Zero risk overclock bundles.
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A colleague asked if there is still a chance of preordering a 1700X with a X370 (for the 2nd), my understanding is 'no stock' but if someone can clarify a bit...
A colleague asked if there is still a chance of preordering a 1700X with a X370 (for the 2nd), my understanding is 'no stock' but if someone can clarify a bit...
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It doesn't really suggest that. The fact is if you're offering overclocking bundles, people expect the higher cost bundle and CPU to go further.
I mean if you offer a 4.2Ghz 1800x bundle for (using absurd prices so OCUK can't accuse me of advertising) £2500, do you think they can offer a 4.2Ghz 1700x bundle for £2350 reflecting the difference in price of the CPU's directly, if so, how would they sell the £2500 bundle? Same goes for the 1700, a 4.2Ghz 1700 bundle for £2270?
No one would offer bundles using different priced chips with the exact same overlcock because it makes zero sense. It's also fairly rare you can buy pre-overclocked bundles that aren't basically very easy to achieve overclocks.
so then what is the difference between the 1700 and the 1700x? im only asking because ive ordered the 1700
Agreed but if what Gibbo said about the R7 1700 struggling to get over 4 GHz is true, then this suggests the 1800X rather easily goes beyond that (considering, as you say, these are likely low-effort overclocks).
That's the £100 question
Caporegime
The 1700 apparently doesn't clock as well as the 1800X, the 1700 has a 65 watt TDP while the 1700X and 1800X both have a 95 Watt TDP, that may or may not have something to do with it.
Pre-ordering before reviews are out is never a good idea, we don't really know anything about these chips yet.
Allegedly there are features of the RyZen not yet released which is what the X is about - details on the 2nd.
Associate
I have also heard this
Soldato
Judging from this thread, no one knows.
Caporegime
Soldato
That's a bit strange for there to be officially sanctioned preorders (promoted by Lisa Su in her presentation) while at the same time holding back info on the comparative features of the 3 chips.