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*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

harney said:
If that is true i am getting really hyped up now ...so for £310 AMD cpu i will have the same performance as a Intel £1000 cpu...

now that is a bargain (maybe that is the right price for an 8 core and intel just make things look too damn expensive .....greedy buggers .....)
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Most people were expecting near or a smidge under Haswell IPC for over a year now. Even coming close to Broadwell had less than half the price is fantastic.
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
A lot of the Intel CPU tests are the same AFAIK,from what I gather talking to people.

Edit!!

We will have forum reviews too,so we can get a better picture of stuff that way too.
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Yup - according to the first 7700k reviews they could all hit 5ghz easily, yet we now know that isn't the case for retail examples.
 
Cromulent said:
I have no idea what memory timings do. I mean I know it is better to have fast stuff but how much difference does it actually make?
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Its not just about having the fastest ram its all so about tight timing's so finding a balance is the best way ..i am sure someone here will give in depth info re this...i am just too lazy and i get too carried away with trying to explain it all.
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
The motherboard also used mostly electrolyte capacitors and not always well known brands too. So what I did for the chipset heatsinks,is I added an active cooled heatsink to one,and a large heatsink to another. I installed new fans,which ran at constant speed to make sure the VRMs and capacitors around there had constant airflow,and modded part of the standard cooler since it would be difficult to add a new one due to the propriety cooler.

I also made sure all the cards I installed had blower coolers - a number of people who had unmodded SD37P2 systems with higher TDP parts like what I was using could have them go kaput due to capacitor failure. Mine lasted nearly 5 years until it had one or two issues,and upgradetitus kicked in and I moved over to SB.
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Interesting, thanks!
 
harney said:
http://hw-db.com/memory/2204/hyperx-hx426c13pb2k4-16-review

They tested great in a couple of builds with x99's for some clients so bought some myself even though i could not use them as i run a couple z97's ddr3 in the studio..
been saving these for Ryzen for a while now just hope they work ...
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Oh, ok.

The ras window is too low, whoever is setting those is potentially setting themselves up to fail depending on how the chipset is substituting the value.
 
Silent_Scone said:
Oh, ok.

The ras window is too low, whoever is setting those is potentially set themselves up to fail depending on how the chipset is substituting the value.
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I thought the same thing too at the time but they tested fine in the x99 builds i did....
but i did relax them once passed onto the clients as stability was crucial for them as they where audio production builds .....so will see how stable they are with ryzen once it all arrives ..this time round i will be able to spend more time with these sticks and test that low ras...
 
harney said:
I thought the same thing too at the time but they tested fine in the x99 builds i did....
but i did relax them once passed onto the clients as stability was crucial for them as they where audio production builds .....so will see how stable they are with ryzen once it all arrives ..this time round i will be able to spend more time with these sticks and test that low ras...
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Yeah. It will be platform dependent (in terms of how the chipset corrects this), but that value is arbitrary. The timing laws are static
 
Cromulent said:
I still have no idea what motherboard to get if the performance is there. I was thinking of the Asus Crosshair VI, the ASRock Professional Gaming X370 or the MSI XPower Gaming Titanium. No idea which one to buy.
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I'm not sure either, The fact that these cost a fair bit more than the Intel equivalents has me stalling, Plus I want a high end X370 MATX if possible. I get why Asus etc had added the extra on, Presumably because AMD are saying the platforms good until 2020 so unlike Intel we aren't being forced onto a new board practically every generation. I haven't even ordered a cpu yet, I figured on waiting until afterVega but I've bought some 3000mhz DDR4 as that's going to be needed regardless of the motherboard, cpu or brand.
 
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