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*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

I do not understand the comment about Ryzen being "bad" for gaming. Even with the bugs that's plaguing Ryzen right now it looks to me like a solid contender. The fact that it is able to catch the 7700k, even with a 1ghz difference in clock(both overclocked), in a few titles or atleast come very close is a win for AMD and for the consumer. I personally am tired of quad cores. My 4770k have been maxed out on a few occasions when i played games and perhaps had a few browser tabs open in the background.
 
Phixsator said:
I do not understand the comment about Ryzen being "bad" for gaming. Even with the bugs that's plaguing Ryzen right now it looks to me like a solid contender. The fact that it is able to catch the 7700k, even with a 1ghz difference in clock(both overclocked), in a few titles or atleast come very close is a win for AMD and for the consumer. I personally am tired of quad cores. My 4770k have been maxed out on a few occasions when i played games and perhaps had a few browser tabs open in the background.
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This 3.9 vs 5ghz video looks to be a bit of a lie. But I agree, so far it looks good and it can only get better. Just how much better or how long it will take is anybody's guess.
 
gavinh87 said:
When will that be in stock?
I'm currently looking at the Gigabyte gaming 3 matx. A competitor supposedly has them coming in today. By all accounts the gigabytes seem to have the had the most success so far.
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Your guess is as good as mine.

In a way I'm kinda glad as I had an 1800x on pre-order too and this delay has made me rethink and probably decide on a 1700.
 
I am really keen for AMD to succeed, as most like to see the "under dog" stick it to the man. And competition is good for all of us. I stepped off the AMD train with my 1090t and switching to an i7 2700k. And now with the R7 CPU's and what they achieve as a lower price point against X99 I am looking forwards to tinkering and getting a "little" OC'ing done.
 
Even though I know the 1700 is most probably the better buy I keep clinging onto the 1800x anyway for a couple of reasons:

  • Whilst it's extremely unlikely a 1700 wouldn't overclock to 3.7Ghz, this is guaranteed for all cores on an 1800x at stock

  • Any 1700 overclock under 4.1Ghz is losing single and dual core speed over a stock 1800x - not a huge concern, but it's there

  • I want to support AMD, but a £160 "donation" is a bit much :p

  • finally, I'd already budgeted for an 1800x anyway and I'd only spend the savings on crap I don't need
 
I suppose its like cars

AMD brand new modal / arch it uses less fuel more valves 8 /16 and its more efficient per valve & its cheaper brand new too

Intel Refined older Arch / Car but nothing really special just been the same engine for what a few years now and i imagine nothing more really to improve could be wrong here ...

Yes on a drag strip the 7700 off the line shoots off way ahead of the Ryzen but after a while the 7700 just does not have the legs with less cores valves / efficiency and the ryzen being what it is 8c 16t eventually moves past it in the end ...would have to be a 10 20 mile drag strip mind you....

Suppose there is a rabbit and hare story in there too :)
 
Been running various synthetic and game benchmarks with my 2500k @ 4.5Ghz and Radeon 290, bunged them into Excel and then I can compare against my 1700X later this week hopefully! (Just hoping the Asrock Taichi's eventually turn up!)

Be interesting to see if my gaming scores go up or mostly stay the same, hopefully it should at least bring the minimums up.

Gaming benchmarks been done at 1440p, as that's what my monitor is :)
 
KrisWragg said:
Been running various synthetic and game benchmarks with my 2500k @ 4.5Ghz and Radeon 290, bunged them into Excel and then I can compare against my 1700X later this week hopefully! (Just hoping the Asrock Taichi's eventually turn up!)

Be interesting to see if my gaming scores go up or mostly stay the same, hopefully it should at least bring the minimums up.

Gaming benchmarks been done at 1440p, as that's what my monitor is :)
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i think that the minimums is where the magic is for AMD but once we get updates done bios / better memory compatibility speeds / scheduler ect then the Ryzen should shine some more in games ...lets face it ....its doing great in MT so it may even improve there too

There will be a trade off against a 5ghz + 7700k but i would rather sacrifice a few frames for more cores ....the benefits of Ryzen completely out way anything from Intel for the price at this current time
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Ryzen-7-1800X-CPU-265804/Tests/Test-Review-1222033/

It seems the 4C versions which appear to use only one CCX might be fine.

Phew!!
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More evidence to suggest the issue is indeed the windows scheduler not understanding the Zen architecture and moving threads between CCXs causing latency issues
Scramz said:
3.7Ghz @ 1.176v - Cinebench score 1553 - topped at 47 degrees on air :cool::cool::cool:

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What ram speed? Scoring lower than mine @ 3.6 there
 
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