*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

[Silent_Scone]

Board manufacturers didn't anticipate this kind of hype and demand

Nothing to do with it.

 

[CEUOTC]

Now the waiting game to see if my return is accepted. Then get another board!

 

[Minus1337]

Now the waiting game to see if my return is accepted. Then get another board!

What board are you going to get?

 

[gavinh87]

Now the waiting game to see if my return is accepted. Then get another board!

on a normal boot the tomahawk gives CPU and ram lights together at first for about 20 seconds then the GPU light will come on then boot up. Having no second light I would say is a ram issue. What are you using?

 

[CEUOTC]

Gigabyte probably.

 

[CEUOTC]

on a normal boot the tomahawk gives CPU and ram lights together at first for about 20 seconds then the GPU light will come on then boot up. Having no second light I would say is a ram issue. What are you using?

Elite 32gb

If I removed the RAM the LED stayed lit, if it was fitted the RAM LED failed to come on, l fitted it in the correct slot as per the handy leaflet.

 

[gavinh87]

Elite 32gb

I have no experience with those but gibbo recommends them so they must be decent.
Do you have no access to other memory?

 

[CEUOTC]

I have no experience with those but gibbo recommends them so they must be decent.
Do you have no access to other memory?

Na, that's it, have 2 kits and tried all 4 DIMMS individually.

 

[gavinh87]

I had ram speed issues until I updated to BIOS but obviously that means being able to boot first. Shame you're not nearer to me. I getting just a 4gb stick of Corsair out of the question?
I'm pretty sure the board is fine, I've had DOA motherboards in the past and they were dead as a dodo.

 

[16979]

who has the tomahawk board any good ??

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Well with the way Premiere Pro is made that 6950X isn't really needed anyway!

FCPX also uses all the resources you can chuck at it! My 2013 Mac Pro was a damn powerhouse.
If Apple didn't abandon the pro market I'd still be on one of those; or you know allow people to upgrade the GPUs at least.

Since then they've focussed squarely on their consumer line that uses mobile parts; so they could get QuickSync in there all the time as well, to further help.

Spoiler

FCPX gobbled up all the CPU and GPU performance.

Since I am a massive SFF PC fan,I still want one of them,even though I have no use for one!!

 

[N19h7m4r3]

Interestingly in GTA 5 4K with the new 1080Ti, Ryzen's 1800X gets significantly better minimums than the 7700K. As in 35 vs 17
Other than that both are within the margin of error.

https://youtu.be/L34ZkAF9q9w?t=5m15s

In all GTA 5 720p and 1080p benchmarks the 7700k wins significantly over Ryzen, except it loses by 50% on minimums in 4K!
That's mental!

I'd give up some max FPS anyday if it means better minimums. The Titan X gets nearly a 50% increase in minimums with Ryzen in 4K, and all the other GPUs have improved minimums as well.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Asrock Taichi supports ECC, and it works in Linux.

TL;DW:

• Basic board overview.
  
  
• [AM4 is a ] Great platform for Linux. If you are building a PC today specifically for Linux and workstation, its hard to suggest anything else.
  
  
• Support ECC memory.
  
  
• IOMMU grouping not the greatest, wait for patches.
  
  
• Showed a quick GTA5 benchmark teaser. (!!!)
  
  
• 1800X OC'ed to 4.2GHz, all cores(check description for validation links).
  
  
• His 1800X-OC Beats 7700K(4.5GHz, stock boost) in CPUZ & but not in Cinebench at single-threaded tests.
  
  
• Got RAM speeds to 3200MHz(GSkill Trident Z) stable on the latest BIOS.
  
  
• Allows overclocking through PStates instead of OC'ing via multipliers and voltage. (Possibly an AsRock only feature?)
  
  
• More overview of the UEFI.
  
  
• More GTA5 in-game benchmarks. No comparison, but FPS at a rock-solid 130-140+, dipping to 90-100 only a few times.
  
  
• New platform, new software therefore rough around the edges. Should be normal eventually.
  
  
• Great platform for parallel computing and workloads which require 8 cores.
  
  
• For single core workloads or apps which aren't heavily multi-threaded, it will not beat a 5GHz Quad Core(7700K).

Thanks for that - been looking at some motherboards,do the cheaper ASRock ones support ECC RAM??

 

[wiski]

Thanks for that - been looking at some motherboards,do the cheaper ASRock ones support ECC RAM??

Based on the Specs page on the ASRock website for the ASRock AB350M Pro4 I was looking at before, yes.


http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/AB350M Pro4/index.asp#Specification

AMD Ryzen series CPUs support DDR4 3200+(OC)/2933(OC)/2667/2400/2133 ECC & non-ECC, un-buffered memory*

 

[N19h7m4r3]

Thanks for that - been looking at some motherboards,do the cheaper ASRock ones support ECC RAM??

Well the Taichi does so far. Gigabyte recently added it to their supported RAM as well.

 

[KrisWragg]

Based on the Specs page on the ASRock website for the ASRock AB350M Pro4 I was looking at before, yes.

Look at the asterisk? Most of them say they support it, but not in ECC mode.

 

[Armageus]

Look at the asterisk? Most of them say they support it, but not in ECC mode.

the asterisk in this case just says "*Please refer to Memory Support List on ASRock's website for more information." doesn't say that it won't run in ECC (unlike some of the other vendors that specifically say that)

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Based on the Specs page on the ASRock website for the ASRock AB350M Pro4 I was looking at before, yes.


http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/AB350M Pro4/index.asp#Specification

Well the Taichi does so far. Gigabyte recently added it to their supported RAM as well.

Thanks again,ASRock is certainly looking to be a contender.

 

[KrisWragg]

the asterisk in this case just says "*Please refer to Memory Support List on ASRock's website for more information." doesn't say that it won't run in ECC (unlike some of the other vendors that specifically say that)

Given that the memory controller is on the CPU is there any reason all the boards don't fully support it, other than they just have other things to test first before enabling it in the BIOS? Good to see Asrock are taking the lead though, I'm thinking more and more that I luckily picked one of the better mobo's.

Getting bored of looking at the empty case of my new build, I have a shiny new case, 32GB of RAM, new PSU and Noctua D15 all ready and waiting for my OcUK order to ship with a 500Gb 960 Evo, Asrock Taichi and 1700X

 

[Zeed]

Your order has been shipped

Goods Shipped:
£208.29 x 1 - Asus ROG Crosshair VI Hero AMD X370 (Socket AM4) DDR4 ATX Motherboard
£324.99 x 1 - AMD Ryzen 7 Eight Core 1700X 3.80GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail
£45.79 x 1 - EK Water Blocks EK-Supremacy EVO AMD

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