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*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

jigger said:
We already had those chips. The 5820K offers that pretty much. If Skylake X offers a unified socket with 5 years of support and a 20 IPC uplift over Skylake it will be interesting. I can't see that happening though. Chances are Skylake X will be 2% faster than Broadwell-E for 20% more money on yet another dead end socket.
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Why would it be anything other than 0%? It's not a new generation or architecture, the clue's in the name: Skylake-X.
 
DragonQ said:
Why would it be anything other than 0%? It's not a new generation or architecture, the clue's in the name: Skylake-X.
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Because AMD have done an amazing job with Ryzen. But yeah I'm not sure Intel are interested enough in the desktop market. I expect more, more of the same again too.
 
Skylake-X will undoubtedly boast 15% performance increase in some fancy benchmarks, but we all know in games and real world applications it will be 0.1% lol!
 
manapon said:
RYZEN sucks at gaming :D
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Probably not every game can differ this much but maybe those that can make use of 16 threads will keep improving
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5zb8yz/it_looks_like_everyones_going_to_need_to_rebench/
 
Last tweak 1700 @4.025ghz 1.41v.

My motherboard won't let me put enough volts in to get 4.05 stable.

32gb Avevir 2400mhz
Gigabyte Gaming 3
CoolerMaster 240 AIO

Load temp - 61

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silversurfer said:
Probably not every game can differ this much but maybe those that can make use of 16 threads will keep improving
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5zb8yz/it_looks_like_everyones_going_to_need_to_rebench/
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This proves AdoredTV's point that going forward, it'll be 'moare coares' that matters...

Personally I'm GPU-bound so I couldn't care less about the 7700k being top dog in gaming right now: the 1700 is more than capable of feeding my RX 480 as fast as possible. But if I fast-foward to a year later, when I'll have a better GPU, I'd much rather have a 1700 to pair it with (as opposed to a 7700k)...
 
Nelly said:
Incase anyone didn't see it in the other thread; Ryzen 5 CPUs will be available for the retail channel within the next couple of weeks. :eek:

Gibbo (Purchasing Manager) at Overclockers UK | Posted: 14 March 2017 said:
Hi there

AMD have authorised OcUK to drop prices on all older generation CPU to make sure it is firmly below Ryzen 7 and also the upcoming Ryzen 5 which shall be available in next couple of weeks. :)
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Zhuni said:
good catch!!
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Abit more info here. :eek:

KiSUAN at xtremesystems | Posted: 14 March 2017 at 6:20 PM (GMT) said:
I can confirm this (I have no interest in spreading FUD), a distributor in Miami already offer me and I'm in South America so we are the last to get anything (Ryzen 7 is just arriving next week in my country :mad:)...

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This are the prices they send me.

Ryzen 5 1600X - $229.59
Ryzen 5 1600 - $198.98
Ryzen 5 1500x - $173.47
Ryzen 5 1400 - $153.06
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ViRuS2k said:
gigabyte k7 will be the better board, you made the right choice ;)
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Actually not. The power delivery if very very low with mediocre quality VRMs. Is no better than the K5 except the external BLK
See their website! Even the Asrock Fatality which isn't top of the lineup is much better.

gavinh87 said:
Genuine question here why are some people waiting for the gigabyte over the asus?
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I have no idea. Like they haven't seen the power delivery specs of the K7 on the official website!!!!


Legend said:
Skylake-X will undoubtedly boast 15% performance increase in some fancy benchmarks, but we all know in games and real world applications it will be 0.1% lol!
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There is going to be only 1 Skylake-X CPU, the 4 core one. 6+ cores are going to be KabyLakes.
And given the process at 140W TDP, so expect clocks not going higher than 4.4 regardless the cooling.
I bet they will struggle to break 4.2 due to the higher IPC and more power needed to support it.

Dianbobo said:
There's 9 in stock apparently :eek:
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Saw your post today mate, and had the run of my life from the car to the office. Actually the third run, considering the other two were in the army with live ammunition training while trying to climb a moving M48A5 MOLF.

You saved me £30 and an extra 60 miles round trip. Why?
I called this morning (9:30) OCUK about my Taichi order, the guy on the phone told me "probably end of the week" (in light of the AsrockMB rep saying all deliveries end of the month!)
Asked him about CH6 stock and he said "two to three weeks". So tried to find mobo elsewhere. Found one in stock on a semi-local shop but was significantly more expensive, if you add the 2.5% credit card charge on top, and collection only or face another £20 carrier (so total saved £50 wasn't doing the 60 miles trip). Hence cancelled the Taichi & 1700 order.

The lunch time I saw your post, run to the office, placed the order on the last remaining CH6!!!!
Which is going to be delivered by OCUK tomorrow alongside a 1700X (from OCUK also). :)

(Mental note NEVER sell my current PC before I have the new one at home).

jigger said:
It's a great time to be buying a PC. You can get £1500 worth of performance from £310 CPU today. We've never had it so good.
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YES. When last night found out that potentially I will be without PC until end of the month due to mobo supplies, tried to find alternative solutions. However there is nothing to beat the Ryzen 8 core CPUs pricing and performance. NONE.

7700K at same price, looks daft choice and no upgrade over my 6700K with dead end motherboard.
6850K expensive for 6 core. 6900K even used ones going for £700+ and their price will tank in 4-5 months if Intel sells the X229 ones at cheaper prices.
Only option is the 6800K. But again, dead end motherboard, and still very expensive of what it is and the overclocking it can receive. Good silicon lottery chip can get you 4.4 max, with 85C+ temps and power consumption that makes the 295X2 looking like a low end power consumption graphic card.
i5 7600K as interim option looks more silly than the 7700K.

So yes. AMD has done what we all wanted. A great all around CPU with enough grunt power to deal with any single task, and very good at gaming also.

As for those who argue the last statement, please provide me a benchmark review where the Ryzen and the equivalent Intel CPU both are running on 3200Mhz RAM. Anything less is useless benchmark.
Because is proven that the fps difference between 2400Mhz and 3200Mhz on Ryzen is 10-13% alone due to how the northbridge is working. Regardless if it is Windows 10 or Windows 7 argument going around....
 
Legend said:
Skylake-X will undoubtedly boast 15% performance increase in some fancy benchmarks, but we all know in games and real world applications it will be 0.1% lol!
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It's the fact 6 core will be available at hopefully high clock speeds with better performance than broadwell e. Pound for pound it won't be good value, but at anything like 4.5-4.7 it would be great for gaming. I'm hoping for these rumored updates to ryzen so I can just go ahead and buy one. Currently it's a bit of an unknown.
 
Drollic said:
It's the fact 6 core will be available at hopefully high clock speeds with better performance than broadwell e. Pound for pound it won't be good value, but at anything like 4.5-4.7 it would be great for gaming. I'm hoping for these rumored updates to ryzen so I can just go ahead and buy one. Currently it's a bit of an unknown.
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lol 4.5, they aint going to do much more than 4Ghz.
 
Any other motherboards that support Hynix IC RAM better than the ASUS CH6? I'm tempted to send mine back and get a different board tbh.
 
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