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*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

Yeah, I know, just a little dig at the chipsets Intel put out with 'Thou shall not impede my profitability' stamped on them. They really do deserve the proverbial finger from any righteous overclocker.

Hah yeah it's the opposite to Amd's overclock what you like and have some free cores while you're at it.
 
Intel domination getting boring isn't it. I probably won't even upgrade even if Zen was better than my 3570k by a long way. The 3570 is just too dam good. 4 years old now I think and still spitting out everything I throw at it. I'll more than likely wait til Zens "tock" and see if that is worthy.
But I definitely would like to try an AMD cpu for once.

For 4 core users no much excitement i suppose but there's plenty of X79 users out there like me running sandy bridge 6-core rigs watching with interest for Zen.

We simply want Zen so it will push down 8 core X99 prices, including the motherboards which are spectacularly expensive at the moment.

From what I can see the guy has access to other AMD engineering samples and its pretty safe to assume that this Zen engineering sample is at stock so its running <4ghz and is not running LN2.
 
For 4 core users no much excitement i suppose but there's plenty of X79 users out there like me running sandy bridge 6-core rigs watching with interest for Zen.

We simply want Zen so it will push down 8 core X99 prices, including the motherboards which are spectacularly expensive at the moment.

From what I can see the guy has access to other AMD engineering samples and its pretty safe to assume that this Zen engineering sample is at stock so its running <4ghz and is not running LN2.

If all you're interested in is pulling down Intel's pricing forget it, not gonna happen. Intel know you will buy Intel even if a Competitive AMD are a lot cheaper.
 
If all you're interested in is pulling down Intel's pricing forget it, not gonna happen. Intel know you will buy Intel even if a Competitive AMD are a lot cheaper.

No they won't dude! lol. If AMD's offering is on par with Intel's offering at a cheaper price point - peeps will buy AMD. Only blind fanboys will argue for Intel in that case.

I sold my 4960X last year whilst it was still worth something - As long as I can get the same level of performance (with same cores) then I'll be more than happy to buy AMD again.
 
The thing that could really drive this is games under DX12 being written to utilise the more cores you can throw at them, the hold back is the engines i would guess? once someone can build an engine that scales better the more cores you can throw at it then you will see a shift in people towards the 8/16 type of chip from AMD especially if its only marginally more expensive than a 4/8 i7, and definitely ahead of a 4 core cpu.

Id even expect stark raving mad people to buy the higher core count cpu's lol.

I think were still in an age where IPC is king and having many more cores is not the be-all and end all right? once we move into the more cores is king era, AMD should see plenty of sales, however at that time i expect Intel to follow suit and start shovelling similar chips out.
 
No they won't dude! lol. If AMD's offering is on par with Intel's offering at a cheaper price point - peeps will buy AMD. Only blind fanboys will argue for Intel in that case.

Going back to the early 2000's when Intel was releasing pooping out one piece of crap after then next (anyone remember when Intel gave us 'Rambus' memory instead of DDR?) I seem to recall there were plenty of Intel fanboys about.
 
AMD really kicked Intel's arse into gear with the Athlon64. It made them fast track their Core line of processors, ditching an entire lineup of P4s (Tejas?) in the process.
 
Cannon lake was first rumoured to be the first mainstream Intel CPU to move to 6 cores, but now that has apparently changed to Coffee Lake so that will probably be my next upgrade.

I wonder if Zen will help push that to release quicker?
 

Looking good so far.

Interesting that they show Zen vs Broadwell E, listing identical clock speeds, comparable configurations, blender CPU render.
It would seem to indicate that they don't actually run at the same clock speeds and one had to be adjusted to meet the other. why put that in unless there is a reasonably large difference in clock speeds to begin with?


In the comments Whycry says.

There was a presentation for the press, you will probably see a video from it in 2 hours. There was also 4k gaming demo as far as I know.

So lets wait and see what shows up on the web.

Goto love this slide though.

zen-wereback.jpg
 
so i dont know if its been covered in the last 40 pages, but just to clarify, the new zen chips will be AM4 only right? so no backward compatibility with AM3+ boards?

(i have an am3+ board)
 
Ah now, can we please not believe anything from this rumor? WhyCry and WCCFT also kept leaking the RX 480 pushing 1500Mhz on aftermarket cards and getting close to the Fury.

They even claimed AMD tried to pay them off with new GPUs to stop posting the leaks.

Just wait for actual results from in depth reviews, and let's not let board the hype train.
 
so i dont know if its been covered in the last 40 pages, but just to clarify, the new zen chips will be AM4 only right? so no backward compatibility with AM3+ boards?

(i have an am3+ board)

Yes, new CPU, new socket, new life. Basically a fresh start from AMD.
 
Love that image ^^^^^ :D

Looks like AMD have a lot of confidence in their new architecture to make a bold statement like "We are Back and just getting started"

Lets see how it performance in World Of Warcraft and old games like it because that's all reviewers are interested in.
 
Love that image ^^^^^ :D

Looks like AMD have a lot of confidence in their new architecture to make a bold statement like "We are Back and just getting started"

Lets see how it performance in World Of Warcraft and old games like it because that's all reviewers are interested in.

Well I'm interested in WoW personally as I still play in. Even my 5280K struggles in it because Blizzard still haven't bothered to get some DX12 or Vulkan in there to help with CPU overhead.

I just hope AMD can compete again, even if they're 5-10% slower, but cost less they'll do very well.

Especially if Zen is cool and doesn't suck power. If the consumer version can also clock well it should really be a winner for many folks.

I miss my AMD systems, my last one was a full custom water Phenom 2 one, the 940 BE the 125W TDP which was mental at the time and I had to get a new Mobo just to support it.
 
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