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*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

More news on the Ryzen APU and Zen 2:

https://videocardz.com/67362/amd-pinnacle-ridge-to-feature-up-to-8-zen2-cores

Channel partners received first roadmaps showing long term plans for AMD Zen architecture for CPUs and APUs. AMD Raven Ridge APUs are currently expected to launch this year with up to 4 Zen CPU cores on FP5 BGA package (Mobile). This year the new APUs will be offered alongside existing Bristol Ridge APUs (desktop), but in 2018 only Raven Ridge will be present int the portfolio for both mobile and desktop platforms.

Moving on to Pinnacle Ridge. This is the Zen2 architecture, refined and matured Zen core will likely be offered as Ryzen 7/5/3 2000 solutions (should we call it Ryzen 2000?). While the roadmap lacks many details, it does ‘confirm‘ that Zen2 will also be 8-core chip, so we should at least be expecting higher clocked chips.
 
Will be great to see your findings, I'm trying to decide between the Gigabyte K7 and the Asus CH6.

The K7 has 2 less phases, but they are visibly different makes, so is that better or worse?

Also the K7 has a more impressive support list for fast RAM and claims support for 3600, whereas the CH6 only claims 3200. Could be important due to the RAM speed findings.

Also @8 Pack is it possible for you to check whether the Noctua D15 AM4 bracket version obscures the first PCI slot on the CH6? A friend has the GB K5 and it doesn't block it, JUST, but the CPU socket looks mounted lower on the Mobo on the CH6.

Just checked on the Noctua site as I have this combination arriving today and it shows that its compatible. Doesn't say that a slot is blocked.

AM4 Asus ROG Crosshair VI Hero NM-AM4 Mounting-Kit required.
 
Just checked on the Noctua site as I have this combination arriving today and it shows that its compatible. Doesn't say that a slot is blocked.

AM4 Asus ROG Crosshair VI Hero NM-AM4 Mounting-Kit required.

If you could let me know for sure once you've built it, that'd be great :D
 
Lol, if you think with the dysfunctional UK retail market we have that a 25% increase in the value of the pound would mean a 25% reduction in prices, then you're just kidding yourself.

It's never worked like that and never will.

The fact that retail margins in this country are a good 20% higher than the States means you'd have to have the pound closer to $1.80 before you'd see a real tangible drop in prices here.

If anything the low £ has forced the retailers hands in many ways, forcing them to drop the price gouging because they know the customer would simply not tolerate such high prices.

It's like you're pretending prices for technology haven't got up in the UK in the face of the lower exchange rate.
 
ya my cousin is running a dual core that unlocked to triple core.
if core unlocking is possible on r5's then it will be a very good prospect moving onto am4 platform.
 
6 SMT Core for £120 to £150 less than an Intel 4 SMT core is already enough for me, if they unlock to 7 or 8 cores its just a bonus.
 
will they be fixing the level 3 cache latency issue in r5 and r3?

For the 4c/8t one, assuming it's just one CCX instead of 4 cores spread over both CCXs, it should have no latency issues and offer better gaming performance since threads won't need to travel from one CCX to the other.

For the other 4c/8t variants with two CCXs and the 6c/12t one, hopefully AMD/Microsoft will have updated the scheduler to properly be aware which core belongs to which CCX.
 
hmm it may be a better idea for me if i want to get my foot in the AM4 platform to use the 4 core variant and then upgrade to 8 core when zen2 comes out. risky business with intel since a new mobo is gonna end up being needed every year round.
 
For the 4c/8t one, assuming it's just one CCX instead of 4 cores spread over both CCXs, it should have no latency issues and offer better gaming performance since threads won't need to travel from one CCX to the other.

For the other 4c/8t variants with two CCXs and the 6c/12t one, hopefully AMD/Microsoft will have updated the scheduler to properly be aware which core belongs to which CCX.

It will be quite interesting if the 4C/8T versions end up having most of the gaming performance of the 6C/12T and 8C/16T versions for a significantly lower price.
 
It will be quite interesting if the 4C/8T versions end up having most of the gaming performance of the 6C/12T and 8C/16T versions for a significantly lower price.
Well they will...in any game that doesn't use 5+ threads. I think the R3 will be a fantastic budget option, similar to the Pentium G4560, but going forward 6c-8c is where it's at. Of course, with AM4 you at least have an upgrade route: R3/R5 now, R7 in 1-2 years for minimal outlay. Personally I prefer to just go big and have the system last longer but I know some people sell and buy every year.
 
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