*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

[gavinh87]

Still 6+ months to go

In 16 months it still won't happen.

 

[humbug]

I'd be concerned about what you've been doing with your socket.

Sounds like you've pritsticked the CPU in place.

lol

No i just don't trust it or myself.

 

[nkuk]

In 16 months it still won't happen.

Are you going to put a PC as a wager on that Gavin??

 

[gavinh87]

Are you going to put a PC as a wager on that Gavin??

No because hitting 4000+ benefits me also!
In all seriousness I don't think these current ryzen chips can handle it.

 

[N19h7m4r3]

Anyone know if the Asus B350-Plus supports the 1600 straight out of the box?

My old man's Sandybridge workstation died, and want to throw together a new Ryzen one for him.

 

[ljt]

Anyone know if the Asus B350-Plus supports the 1600 straight out of the box?

My old man's Sandybridge workstation died, and want to throw together a new Ryzen one for him.

It should do.

I built a B350 MSI tomahawk and R5 1500X system for a friend and it worked out the box, I updated the BIOS afterward perfectly fine

 

[N19h7m4r3]

It should do.

I built a B350 MSI tomahawk and R5 1500X system for a friend and it worked out the box, I updated the BIOS afterward perfectly fine

I'm eye up the Tomahawk or B350 Plus, so that's good to know thanks mate.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Anyone know if the Asus B350-Plus supports the 1600 straight out of the box?

My old man's Sandybridge workstation died, and want to throw together a new Ryzen one for him.

The MSI B350 Tomahawk does(not sure about the white one) and the ASRock AB350M-HDV will support a Ryzen 5 1400 out of the box. If the first BIOS revision lists the Ryzen 5 1600 as supported it should in theory be fine.

 

[N19h7m4r3]

The MSI B350 Tomahawk does(not sure about the white one) and the ASRock AB350M-HDV will support a Ryzen 5 1400 out of the box. If the first BIOS revision lists the Ryzen 5 1600 as supported it should in theory be fine.

Sorted then really. Thanks.

 

[nkuk]

No because hitting 4000+ benefits me also!
In all seriousness I don't think these current ryzen chips can handle it.

I'm more confident than ever that its possible. Just installed the new Taichi Beta BIOS and it recognised my 3866 gskill memory, I had to dial it back to 3600 get it to boot fully, I think with some playing I may be able to get more. The RAM timings change all the way up to 3600 speed, but then stay the same as 3600 if I go to 3733 speed or 3866. I think if I slacken off the right values I might be able to get it faster. 3600 is just a matter of setting everything to Auto, and thats what I was hoping for so I'm really pleased, if I can get all the way to 3866 it will be more than I hoped for.

There are are at least twice as many RAM settings as the previous BIOS, I'm going to do some reading and then see what I can get. My spec is in my signature.

Edit, for some reason I can't attach an inline image, screenshot is here: http://imgur.com/a/LL5sf

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

LOL,I never thought I would see Ryzen mentioned on the Nvidia website in a build guide:

http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/gu...lite-performance-build-powered-by-gtx-1080-ti

 

[teppic]

Now that nvidia's recommending AMD CPUs maybe they'll fix their drivers for DX12

 

[gavinh87]

I'm more confident than ever that its possible. Just installed the new Taichi Beta BIOS and it recognised my 3866 gskill memory, I had to dial it back to 3600 get it to boot fully, I think with some playing I may be able to get more. The RAM timings change all the way up to 3600 speed, but then stay the same as 3600 if I go to 3733 speed or 3866. I think if I slacken off the right values I might be able to get it faster. 3600 is just a matter of setting everything to Auto, and thats what I was hoping for so I'm really pleased, if I can get all the way to 3866 it will be more than I hoped for.

There are are at least twice as many RAM settings as the previous BIOS, I'm going to do some reading and then see what I can get. My spec is in my signature.

Edit, for some reason I can't attach an inline image, screenshot is here: http://imgur.com/a/LL5sf

What memory stability testing have you done on that speed? I can boot at 3600 with my 4266 memory but it's far from stable. If we can hit 4000+ then great but I'm not holding my breath.

 

[Boomstick777]

LOL,I never thought I would see Ryzen mentioned on the Nvidia website in a build guide:

http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/gu...lite-performance-build-powered-by-gtx-1080-ti

That's good to see, using R7 1700 with GTX 1080 Ti and performance is awesome, both synthetic and gaming.

 

[V F]

Pretty build from the video.

 

[Panos]

LOL,I never thought I would see Ryzen mentioned on the Nvidia website in a build guide:

http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/gu...lite-performance-build-powered-by-gtx-1080-ti

Making that PC with what then? 6900K which costs 3 times the money, or 7700K for same money and less performance?
Ryzen 7 is the only sensible option, paired with 3200mhz ram also.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Making that PC with what then? 6900K which costs 3 times the money, or 7700K for same money and less performance?
Ryzen 7 is the only sensible option, paired with 3200mhz ram also.

AMD are a competitor in the consumer space and in Nvidia sponsored games like ROTTR,the Nvidia cards seem to have driver problems with Ryzen - it was one of the games which skewed results in the test suites towards the i7 7700k.

 

[humbug]

Making that PC with what then? 6900K which costs 3 times the money, or 7700K for same money and less performance?
Ryzen 7 is the only sensible option, paired with 3200mhz ram also.

Yeah, that's what they said "Ryzen 1700X is the best performance for $ right now"

Of course they are right but i'm surprised that one of nVidia's PR channels would recommend anything AMD, but then again are Intel any less rivals?

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Yeah, that's what they said "Ryzen 1700X is the best performance for $ right now"

Of course they are right but i'm surprised that one of nVidia's PR channels would recommend anything AMD, but then again are Intel any less rivals?

I would say AMD is the bigger one potentially since the Apus will have a big potential to take share off the lower end cards especially in laptops.

Edit!

However there is potentially still a lot of bad blood though with Intel after they screwed Nvidia out of the chipsets business.

 

[humbug]

I would say AMD is the bigger one potentially since the Apus will have a big potential to take share off the lower end cards especially in laptops.

Edit!

However there is potentially still a lot of bad blood though with Intel after they screwed Nvidia out of the chipsets business.

True.