*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

[flea-rider]

I'm more confident than ever that its possible. Just installed the new Taichi Beta BIOS and it recognised my 3866 gskill memory, I had to dial it back to 3600 get it to boot fully, I think with some playing I may be able to get more. The RAM timings change all the way up to 3600 speed, but then stay the same as 3600 if I go to 3733 speed or 3866. I think if I slacken off the right values I might be able to get it faster. 3600 is just a matter of setting everything to Auto, and thats what I was hoping for so I'm really pleased, if I can get all the way to 3866 it will be more than I hoped for.

There are are at least twice as many RAM settings as the previous BIOS, I'm going to do some reading and then see what I can get. My spec is in my signature.

Edit, for some reason I can't attach an inline image, screenshot is here: http://imgur.com/a/LL5sf

can you post a shot of the timing's ?

 

[Pannalicour]

gamegpu.com The game Overwatch cpu benchmark with a gtx 1080ti

 

[Chuk_Chuk]

Has there been any new review with ryzen running with faster ram in various programs?

 

[Panos]

Has there been any new review with ryzen running with faster ram in various programs?

Not many. But I expect shortly when all mobos have non beta BIOS based on AEGSA 1006

 

[Chuk_Chuk]

Not many. But I expect shortly when all mobos have non beta BIOS based on AEGSA 1006

okay. I'll keep an eye out

 

[Journey]

Looks like the Ryzen R3 price aren't too bad.

https://gameolo.com/product-category/คอมประกอบ/cpu/cpu-amd/page/2

AMD Ryzen 3 1100 - 4c/4t - 65w
3.20/3.50Ghz
£110 + VAT

AMD Ryzen 3 1200X - 4c/4t - 65w
3.40/3.80GHz
£127 + VAT

 

[humbug]

Looks like the Ryzen R3 price aren't too bad.

https://gameolo.com/product-category/คอมประกอบ/cpu/cpu-amd/page/2

AMD Ryzen 3 1100 - 4c/4t - 65w
3.20/3.50Ghz
£110 + VAT

AMD Ryzen 3 1200X - 4c/4t - 65w
3.40/3.80GHz
£127 + VAT

A lot cheaper than an i3

 

[DragonQ]

Looks like the Ryzen R3 price aren't too bad.

https://gameolo.com/product-category/คอมประกอบ/cpu/cpu-amd/page/2

AMD Ryzen 3 1100 - 4c/4t - 65w
3.20/3.50Ghz
£110 + VAT

AMD Ryzen 3 1200X - 4c/4t - 65w
3.40/3.80GHz
£127 + VAT

Would be interesting to see the R3 1100 up against the Pentium G4560. Similar clock speeds, Intel will have slight IPC advantage but AMD has 4 real cores rather than 2 and will be overclockable. Not sure if that justifies paying 2.5x as much though. AMD need something in that price bracket but that probably won't come until Raven Ridge.

 

[gavinh87]

Might pick up the ryzen 3 for my daughter so she can play overwatch. Depending on performance obviously.

 

[DragonQ]

Might pick up the ryzen 3 for my daughter so she can play overwatch. Depending on performance obviously.

Overwatch definitely doesn't use more than 6 cores, not sure how effective SMT is with it though. My old rig can play it at 1440p no problem so I imagine an R3 will work fine.

 

[ben90]

Overwatch definitely doesn't use more than 6 cores, not sure how effective SMT is with it though. My old rig can play it at 1440p no problem so I imagine an R3 will work fine.

For reference I run it at all low settings, 1280x900 with a stock 1600, 16GB ram and an old 5870 1GB OC and I rarely dip under 100fps.

 

[Pannalicour]

http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-wins-...ds-2017s-best-cpu-nvidia-gp102-wins-best-gpu/


R5 1600x winner

 

[ubersonic]

One thing I don't get about the bashing of Silent Scone. The problem did/do exist, so he obviously didn't make it up off his own back.
Whereas people here whom are bashing him constantly post things derived from their own minds.

You may have forgotten but in the run up to Ryzen launch he was borderline spamming with FUD/doomsaying while claiming he had secret insider knowledge, to the point the mods had to warn him over it. The statement that Ryzen (this gen) would max out at 2666MHz and that he would give his computer to anyone who got an AM4 board running 3866Mhz DRAM or upward this side of Christmas, was just the culmination of the farce.

 

[N19h7m4r3]

Rise of the Tomb Raider has gotten a Patch for Ryzen CPUs! It might sort out the issue were it was always an outlier where Ryzen performed really badly in.
http://forums.eu.square-enix.com/showthread.php?t=254796&s=ea21fd6c2d46877c189c6e647153b29d

- Fix certain DX12 crashes reported by users on the forums.
- Improve DX12 performance across a variety of hardware, in CPU bound situations. Especially performance on AMD Ryzen CPUs can be significantly improved.

 

[Erik13]

Finally reason for review sites to stop testing this game

 

[N19h7m4r3]

Finally reason for review sites to stop testing this game

HAHA!

Remember that Toms top gaming CPU list they had? At one point they claimed the 1600 was 15% slower than the 7600K. And it was all due to Tomb Raider, despite the overall difference being 2.6% Stock vs Stock.

Take away Tomb Reader and suddenly the 1600 pulls ahead. Now that Tomb Raider is *fixed*, and some users on reddit claiming up to a 40% fps increase in some areas I wonder if anyone will bother retesting.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6e670r/rise_of_the_tomb_raider_ryzen_patch/

 

[haszek]

HAHA!

Remember that Toms top gaming CPU list they had? At one point they claimed the 1600 was 15% slower than the 7600K. And it was all due to Tomb Raider, despite the overall difference being 2.6% Stock vs Stock.

Take away Tomb Reader and suddenly the 1600 pulls ahead. Now that Tomb Raider is *fixed*, and some users on reddit claiming up to a 40% fps increase in some areas I wonder if anyone will bother retesting.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6e670r/rise_of_the_tomb_raider_ryzen_patch/

Probably adoredtv will do it

 

[N19h7m4r3]

Probably adoredtv will do it

Aye, as it seem Tomb Raider is one outlier that's finally been addressed.

 

[teppic]

I don't think anyone takes Tom's seriously any more. I hope not anyway. Shame as it was once so good.

 

[humbug]

HAHA!

Remember that Toms top gaming CPU list they had? At one point they claimed the 1600 was 15% slower than the 7600K. And it was all due to Tomb Raider, despite the overall difference being 2.6% Stock vs Stock.

Take away Tomb Reader and suddenly the 1600 pulls ahead. Now that Tomb Raider is *fixed*, and some users on reddit claiming up to a 40% fps increase in some areas I wonder if anyone will bother retesting.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6e670r/rise_of_the_tomb_raider_ryzen_patch/

Lets see how long this post stays up..... http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-3427919/computex-ryzen-1600x-cpu-year.html

Computex: Ryzen 1600X best CPU of the year.

Of course it is, Intel have had then market to themselves for so long (thanks to lack of competition from AMD) that they are still charging well over $200 for unlocked 4 core 4 thread CPU's, as though we are stuck in 2009, AMD have come in under the radar with a good architecture this time and completely humiliated Intel, again.

http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-wins-european-hardware-aw...

That is, of course, unless (mentioning no names) as a reviewer very specifically make it about a small number of very select games only, mix-up Unlocked CPU prices with locked, ignore Motherboard pricing, use 2400Mhz Ram knowing it can make a 10 to 20% difference in performance vs 3000Mhz and then also get your overall performance results wrong.

But its ok, Intel promises that in a few months they will have their own mainstream 6 core and people will forget that some reviewers came up with mind-blowing Intel recommendations that make no sense to almost anyone, Then, suddenly actually 6 cores are better than 4 afterall, now that Intel are doing in mainstream, who would have thought it....? just so long as you continue to ignore Intel's pricing, its all good.