*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

[Yaayuh!]

Pictures of the ASUS X399 ROG ZENITH EXTREME

http://www.overclock.net/t/1624603/rog-crosshair-vi-overclocking-thread/17800_50#post_26128334

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Aye, as it seem Tomb Raider is one outlier that's finally been addressed.

I am hoping the other one,namely,FO4 gets it too as that can also pull down averages and it looks more like a CPU optimisation issue there too.

 

[humbug]

Don't tell Toms Hardware ^^^^^they will change their reviewing methodology from Tomb Raider to FA4.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

AsROCK mini-ITX motherboard:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6dzox8/am4_miniitx_from_asrock_announced_officially_good/

Ryzen 7 1700 laptop:

http://wccftech.com/asus-rog-strix-notebook-amd-ryzen-7-8-core-cpu/

Looks like the Ryzen R3 price aren't too bad.

https://gameolo.com/product-category/คอมประกอบ/cpu/cpu-amd/page/2

AMD Ryzen 3 1100 - 4c/4t - 65w
3.20/3.50Ghz
£110 + VAT

AMD Ryzen 3 1200X - 4c/4t - 65w
3.40/3.80GHz
£127 + VAT

The 1100 looks great value but the Ryzen 5 1400 is around £150 so I would probably choose that over the 1200X.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Don't tell Toms Hardware ^^^^^they will change their reviewing methodology from Tomb Raider to FA4.

Lol,but still Bethesda get on with it!!

Also, anyone notice this:

http://m.hexus.net/tech/news/systems/106336-dell-launches-first-inspiron-gaming-desktop-computex/

Dell has launched its Inspiron gaming desktops and they are powered by Ryzen CPUs.

 

[Yaayuh!]

Don't tell Toms Hardware ^^^^^they will change their reviewing methodology from Tomb Raider to FA4.

FA4? "Fall-aat" 4

 

[DragonQ]

Lets see how long this post stays up..... http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-3427919/computex-ryzen-1600x-cpu-year.html

I have no doubt reviewers who were questioning 6+ core Ryzens' effectiveness in gaming will be all over the 6c/12t Coffee Lake, and again ignore the fact that it will still cost a lot more than AMD's equivalent (albeit with higher clock speeds).

 

[humbug]

FA4? "Fall-aat" 4

Cuz i is stupid :O

I have no doubt reviewers who were questioning 6+ core Ryzens' effectiveness in gaming will be all over the 6c/12t Coffee Lake, and again ignore the fact that it will still cost a lot more than AMD's equivalent (albeit with higher clock speeds).

Of course....

 

[N19h7m4r3]

I have no doubt reviewers who were questioning 6+ core Ryzens' effectiveness in gaming will be all over the 6c/12t Coffee Lake, and again ignore the fact that it will still cost a lot more than AMD's equivalent (albeit with higher clock speeds).

That's a complete given! Although now that Intel is finally pushing more cores, it hopefully means developers will finally cop on and start using more.

 

[awaybreaktoday]

Quote:

I'll just copy my post from Steam forums:

• + 52 fps at 1080p: https://abload.de/img/riseofthetombraider05m6u6h.png
• + 14 fps at 1440p: https://abload.de/img/riseofthetombraider05yuu5c.png
• +3 fps at 4k: https://abload.de/img/riseofthetombraider052suv6.png

Ryzen 1700 at 3.8 and 1080 Ti at 2012 core and +630 mem.

Edit:

• Previous Patch: https://abload.de/img/riseofthetombraider05dcutq.png
  
  
• Ryzen Patch: https://abload.de/img/riseofthetombraider05b9urs.png

720p Dx12 + Very High preset

Previous Patch:

Ryzen Patch:

 

[humbug]

Quote:

I'll just copy my post from Steam forums:

• + 52 fps at 1080p: https://abload.de/img/riseofthetombraider05m6u6h.png
• + 14 fps at 1440p: https://abload.de/img/riseofthetombraider05yuu5c.png
• +3 fps at 4k: https://abload.de/img/riseofthetombraider052suv6.png

Ryzen 1700 at 3.8 and 1080 Ti at 2012 core and +630 mem.

Edit:

• Previous Patch: https://abload.de/img/riseofthetombraider05dcutq.png
  
  
• Ryzen Patch: https://abload.de/img/riseofthetombraider05b9urs.png

720p Dx12 + Very High preset

Previous Patch:

Ryzen Patch:

123 vs 184.... Thats a 50% uplift in performance thats huge, there was a big difference between Ryzen and Intel but it wasn't anything like that big....

 

[harney]

FA4? "Fall-aat" 4

 

[harney]

Quote:

I'll just copy my post from Steam forums:

• + 52 fps at 1080p: https://abload.de/img/riseofthetombraider05m6u6h.png
• + 14 fps at 1440p: https://abload.de/img/riseofthetombraider05yuu5c.png
• +3 fps at 4k: https://abload.de/img/riseofthetombraider052suv6.png

Ryzen 1700 at 3.8 and 1080 Ti at 2012 core and +630 mem.

Edit:

• Previous Patch: https://abload.de/img/riseofthetombraider05dcutq.png
  
  
• Ryzen Patch: https://abload.de/img/riseofthetombraider05b9urs.png

720p Dx12 + Very High preset

Previous Patch:

Ryzen Patch:

Wow that is some Ryzen magic right there

 

[AllBodies]

Ryzen 7 1700 laptop:

http://wccftech.com/asus-rog-strix-notebook-amd-ryzen-7-8-core-cpu/

Awesome, I totally called they could manage to get a 1700 in a laptop. Still running at 3.7 GHz boost too, so they could downclock it to put it in an even smaller formfactor if they wanted (probably not ultrabooks though)

Hopefully tech news sites catch on and make a big deal of this. Credit where credit is due, this is the world first 8-core normal laptop, and will be the highest performing laptop (in CPU tasks) that money can buy. Pretty cool achievement from AMD.

And also, I suppose this effectively confirms 8-core Zen is suitable for games consoles. So wouldn't surprise me if the next consoles have 8-core Zen2 in them (Zen2 just because of timing of when they'll likely come out)

 

[DragonQ]

How do they get an RX 580 at 65 W? My undervolted RX 480 uses near-100W when gaming typically.

 

[humbug]

Mobile parts are better binned that the things you an me buy ^^^^

Awesome, I totally called they could manage to get a 1700 in a laptop. Still running at 3.7 GHz boost too, so they could downclock it to put it in an even smaller formfactor if they wanted (probably not ultrabooks though)

Hopefully tech news sites catch on and make a big deal of this. Credit where credit is due, this is the world first 8-core normal laptop, and will be the highest performing laptop (in CPU tasks) that money can buy. Pretty cool achievement from AMD.

And also, I suppose this effectively confirms 8-core Zen is suitable for games consoles. So wouldn't surprise me if the next consoles have 8-core Zen2 in them (Zen2 just because of timing of when they'll likely come out)

The 1700 is a 65 Watt part, on the desktop... which is astonishing for a 16 thread CPU.

 

[AllBodies]

The 1700 is a 65 Watt part, on the desktop... which is astonishing for a 16 thread CPU.

Indeed, though 65W is still high for 'normal' formfactor laptops.

I want to see if they can get it down to 35-40W if they bin it a bit and underclock it to ~3.4 GHz, and then it'll go in any old laptop design. In many ways that'd be even more impressive, and it'd be hilarious if 8-core laptops started to become normal while Intel is still planning to make dual-core CPUs for desktop

 

[humbug]

Indeed, though 65W is still high for 'normal' formfactor laptops.

I want to see if they can get it down to 35-40W if they bin it a bit and underclock it to ~3.4 GHz, and then it'll go in any old laptop design. In many ways that'd be even more impressive, and it'd be hilarious if 8-core laptops started to become normal while Intel is still planning to make dual-core CPUs for desktop

If its 65 Watts on the Desktop they could probably get it down to 45 Watts by simply using the best bins and fiddling with the voltage.

Desktop gets all the stuff rejected for all other platforms.

 

[pete910]

When I find it, Qnap had their new NAS server rocking a ryzen 1700 on show iirc. I forget where.

I'll post it when found

 

[N19h7m4r3]

When I find it, Qnap had their new NAS server rocking a ryzen 1700 on show iirc. I forget where.

I'll post it when found

AMD Ryzen powered QNAP NAS spotted at Computex

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/57770/amd-ryzen-powered-qnap-nas-spotted-computex/index.html

Asus are also launching ROG laptop with Ryzen and RX 580 and FreeSync 2
http://www.laptopmag.com/articles/asus-rog-strix-g702zc-ryzen-laptop-specs

And Dell just announced a beastly AIO system as well for $999.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11455...7-rx-580?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social