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*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

N19h7m4r3 said:
It depends on how CPU intensive the game is, and at what quality you're streaming
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I need to factor in anything from indie to AAA titles; I don't tend to stick to just a couple of games. Likely 720/60, with potential for 1080/60 going forward during the lifespan of the CPU.

N19h7m4r3 said:
I'm not sure if OBS allows you to specify which CPU threads to use, I haven't used the new OBS Studio, but thanks to DXTory I can manage it all rather well.
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I'm unsure if OBS has that; I can't remember off the top of my head, but I don't recall seeing it (at work at the moment). Though I know of Process Lasso, so I could always go down that route.

N19h7m4r3 said:
What I'd recommend in your situation is try and run it all now, and see how much your transcoding will use of the CPU. Although even then the 1700 should be a significant improvement for multi tasking like that.
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I think that will be the best way. With all of that running, I'd imagine I'd be getting full use out of 8/16. I'd then be able to narrow down usage patterns, or throw around the idea of keeping Plex and/or game servers on my old 4690K system; freeing up the 1700 for gaming and streaming.

doodah said:
Just saw a 1700 for £274 and accidentally ordered it :o
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Nice find!
 
Seblirium said:
I need to factor in anything from indie to AAA titles; I don't tend to stick to just a couple of games. Likely 720/60, with potential for 1080/60 going forward during the lifespan of the CPU.

I think that will be the best way. With all of that running, I'd imagine I'd be getting full use out of 8/16. I'd then be able to narrow down usage patterns, or throw around the idea of keeping Plex and/or game servers on my old 4690K system; freeing up the 1700 for gaming and streaming.
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That's the best process overall. Many new AAA titles will make use of more cores, and you need to factor that into streaming/recording as well.
For streaming/recording Linus did find Ryzen can offers better image quality for similar or less performance drop compared to Intel's 6900K or even using QuickSync ( worse quality, and other GPU solutions even worse ) on the 7700K.

I can tell you right now that recording GTA V for instance will knock off nearly 40% of my FPS, and that'll be just running the game and then chrome and discord on the second monitor.
So it can vary quite a bit depending on the games.

I'm sure if I had 4 more threads overall, the drop would far less; so if you do get a 1700 you'll still need to play around and see how you can get the best overall out of your system. The Plex transcoding will hit the CPU's performance a lot more than the gaming + Streaming on Ryzen, that's for sure.
 
Folks, any thoughts on what the chances are of a micro ATX Ryzen build that "just works" out of the box?

I work and game on the same pc so it has got to be stable above all else. It must never bluescreen, fail to boot, stop responding, or corrupt a file. Old as it is, my 2500k delivers on this but I'm concerned that Ryzen still feels a bit experimental and not settled yet. Would really like more cpu grunt soon though!

- 1600 or 1600X
- mATX with enough space for GPU and PCI-E soundcard
- 2x16gb ddr4, leaving room to add more in future
- "fast" memory support, ideally 3200 or better
- overclocking to at least 3.8ghz on all cores at once

Does that seem viable at this time, or am I better waiting a bit for some bios updates and new motherboard revisions?
 
Jon20 said:
I might have done the same... but for £273 :p. Just need some more ITX boards now.
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You must've got the last one if you nabbed it from where I was looking! :p

Waiting on a payment from a family member, if they send it over tonight then Ryzen is getting bought!
 
CPU is in the basket, under £280 so pretty good value.

Can anyone recommend the best matx B350 board? At the moment the MSI Bazooka is in the basket as I've read positive things about it.
 
I did... last night when I posted that. :)

(edit: just checked and still in stock as I type this).

It is a direct competitor though so obviously can't post where (One of the larger well known ones so should be easy to find). IIRC I found it through the pc part picker thingy.
 
Ok, I think I'm pretty sold on the idea of an ITX build for my 1700 whenever I get around to it.
Though thankfully it won't be for a little while yet, meaning hopefully other brands release their ITX boards... not a fan of Biostar from yonderyear experiences!
 
Seblirium said:
Ok, I think I'm pretty sold on the idea of an ITX build for my 1700 whenever I get around to it.
Though thankfully it won't be for a little while yet, meaning hopefully other brands release their ITX boards... not a fan of Biostar from yonderyear experiences!
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A lots changed so I would say it is certainly not something to be scoffed at these days. I have certainly had as many issues with more "reputable" brands tbh.
 
Curlyriff said:
A lots changed so I would say it is certainly not something to be scoffed at these days. I have certainly had as many issues with more "reputable" brands tbh.
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Absolutely; no company is faultless. Likely that I've not allowed myself to do enough due-diligence on them in recent years and defaulting more to what I've had better experiences with e.g. Asus (while I know others will steer clear of Asus!).
 
Seblirium said:
Absolutely; no company is faultless. Likely that I've not allowed myself to do enough due-diligence on them in recent years and defaulting more to what I've had better experiences with e.g. Asus (while I know others will steer clear of Asus!).
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Haha yeah. Actually Asus is first on my ignore list after having issues with 3 boards in 6 months for friends and they were all the high end stuff. Gigabyte was doing well til they started downgrading parts on new releases of same boards and so moved over to AsRock who was not liked much at time and found them to really be pretty solid. A little slower to market and updates but generally solid.
 
biostar is a massive company though. a lot of OEM boards are actully manufactured by them and slapped in your off the shelf systems that people use for years. they are a solid manufacturer.
 
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