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*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

Jono8 said:
Re that 2600x bench, it could be true if the 4.2ghz identified is the base clock and AMD have managed to up clock speeds dramatically on 12nm. Could be 4.2 base and 4.8-5.0 boost or something. That would make it quiet believable if they have also improved IPC by 10-20% as well.

Still seems too good to be true.
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It's so obviously fake, it's like someone is having a "how outlandish can we get with our fakes and still have people believe it" competition with their friends. Jesus, if it had a single threaded score of 20,000 people would still go "well it might be true!". :rolleyes:
 
DragonQ said:
It's so obviously fake, it's like someone is having a "how outlandish can we get with our fakes and still have people believe it" competition with their friends. Jesus, if it had a single threaded score of 20,000 people would still go "well it might be true!". :rolleyes:
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I think it is fake too but it isn't beyond the realms of possibility if AMD somehow have broken through a frequency barrier on the new process and are managing to boost stuff to 5.0ghz :p
 
Jono8 said:
I think it is fake too but it isn't beyond the realms of possibility if AMD somehow have broken through a frequency barrier on the new process and are managing to boost stuff to 5.0ghz :p
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Not really, going from 4.0 to 5.0 GHz is a 25% clock speed improvement. You'd also need to combine that with a 25% IPC improvement to get a Cinebench ST score ~56% higher than the R5 1600X, which is what the video claims.

It's nonsense.
 
Some users on Reddit have got hold of the HP Envy X360 which has a Ryzen 5 2500U in a 15W TDP limited chassis.

Some Cinebench R15 scores(two different people):

https://imgur.com/LOCjX2S
https://i2.wp.com/apusilicon.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/cinebenchr15udated.png

Cinebench R11.5 scores:

https://i1.wp.com/apusilicon.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/cinebenchupdated.png

These two websites list comparative scores for the Core i5 8250U:

https://www.ultrabookreview.com/17801-intel-core-i5-8250u-benchmarks/
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-i5-8250U-SoC-Benchmarks-and-Specs.242172.0.html

3DMark score:

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/is/4265626/is/4265355

Edit!!

The two threads:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/commen..._15mbq1xx_cinebench/?sort=old#bottom-comments
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/7crdok/hp_envy_x360_w_ryzen_first_impressions/?sort=new
 
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chroniclard said:
Yet the multicore score is roughly about right for 4.2.
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That's an R5 1600X equivalent, 6c/12t, so the multicore ans single core line up fine. I can get 1360 in Cine R15 with a 4.0GHz R5 1600, so moving the IPC up, and increasing the frequency those results begin to make sense, especially if you compare them to the new i7 8700 running at 4.3GHz. AMD did say their were going to be some improvements above and beyond first gen Ryzen, and lets not forget, they could have pushed Ryzen out earlier than they wanted to, to disrupt Intel/the market as much as possible this year, so effectively releasing an unfinished/unrefined product. :)
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Some users on Reddit have got hold of the HP Envy X360 which has a Ryzen 5 2500U in a 15W TDP limited chassis.

Some Cinebench R15 scores(two different people):

https://imgur.com/LOCjX2S
https://i2.wp.com/apusilicon.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/cinebenchr15udated.png

Cinebench R11.5 scores:

https://i1.wp.com/apusilicon.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/cinebenchupdated.png

These two websites list comparative scores for the Core i5 8250U:

https://www.ultrabookreview.com/17801-intel-core-i5-8250u-benchmarks/
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-i5-8250U-SoC-Benchmarks-and-Specs.242172.0.html

3DMark score:

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/is/4265626/is/4265355

Edit!!

The two threads:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/commen..._15mbq1xx_cinebench/?sort=old#bottom-comments
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/7crdok/hp_envy_x360_w_ryzen_first_impressions/?sort=new
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good spot, the 2500 U looks to provide an outstanding balance of performance at great power consumption.
The 2700u looks to be even sweeter. These would make great workhorse casual laptops/nucs.
The 10CU Gpu seems to be hitting 2700 gscore in firestrike, which is around mx150 but there may be room for more tweaking, depends how locked down it all is.
 
Davedree said:
good spot, the 2500 U looks to provide an outstanding balance of performance at great power consumption.
The 2700u looks to be even sweeter. These would make great workhorse casual laptops/nucs.
The 10CU Gpu seems to be hitting 2700 gscore in firestrike, which is around mx150 but there may be room for more tweaking, depends how locked down it all is.
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I am looking forward to reviews of the Ryzen 7 2700U in laptops which have more cooling too,like the Acer one touted at launch.

Edit!!

He tested Resident Evil 5 at 1080P at max settings:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A0YMY1bG30&feature=youtu.be


https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/7crdok/hp_envy_x360_w_ryzen_first_impressions/dpsvthq/
 
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CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Some users on Reddit have got hold of the HP Envy X360 which has a Ryzen 5 2500U in a 15W TDP limited chassis.

Some Cinebench R15 scores(two different people):

https://imgur.com/LOCjX2S
https://i2.wp.com/apusilicon.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/cinebenchr15udated.png

Cinebench R11.5 scores:

https://i1.wp.com/apusilicon.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/cinebenchupdated.png

These two websites list comparative scores for the Core i5 8250U:

https://www.ultrabookreview.com/17801-intel-core-i5-8250u-benchmarks/
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-i5-8250U-SoC-Benchmarks-and-Specs.242172.0.html

3DMark score:

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/is/4265626/is/4265355

Edit!!

The two threads:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/commen..._15mbq1xx_cinebench/?sort=old#bottom-comments
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/7crdok/hp_envy_x360_w_ryzen_first_impressions/?sort=new
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Impressive especially at such a low power draw.

Just adding another 5watts could show up to 66% more performance depending on what you was measuring.
 
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gavinh87 said:
Hit and miss performance in games, cold boot issues. Not able to hit 144fps in games where intel can.
A lot of factors really and I don't regret it at all. I still have my crosshair mobo in case ryzen 2 ends up being something special. But this gen of ryzen isn't for me.
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Similar reason for why I only went with Ryzen 5 this time, I'm looking forward to a better clocking refresh becoming available next year, Hopefully next year but even if there's nothing till 2019 I'll still be able to get away with doing just a cpu change.
 
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