*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

[Darren_uk]

I See you found the guy also, B12b6

 

[d_brennen]

Just skipped through that video (quickly and no sound) - just a guy clicking on things randomly by the looks of it when can I buy GUI Sim?

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Reddit thread on the leak:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/7wqoh7/ryzen_5_2400g_live_testing/

 

[Darren_uk]

They are on sale from tomorrow Monday for 13th Feb rel

 

[Darren_uk]

Same video, CAT-THE-FIFTH
Well it's the best CPU with Graphics
Ryzen 5 2400G $169 to GBP = £122

 

[DragonQ]

Same video, CAT-THE-FIFTH
Well it's the best CPU with Graphics
Ryzen 5 2400G $169 to GBP = £122

£147 inc VAT, so hopefully will be £149 or less.

 

[Darren_uk]

Yep

 

[DragonQ]

Some benchmarks have been leaked:

https://videocardz.com/74961/amd-ryzen-5-2400g-synthetic-and-gaming-benchmarks-emerge

Not sure what RAM was used,or the settings in the games run.

We don't know the boost details yet but if it's similar to the other 4 core Ryzens it'll boost by 100 MHz when using all cores. If so, it's running with a ~3% higher clock speed, doesn't have the infinity fabric bottleneck, but has a quarter of the L3 cache, and scores the same as an R5 1500X. Really hard to compare to be honest. It's supposed to have all the new features of the Pinnacle Ridge chips (aside from the 12 nm process), which to me suggests not much improvement is coming in the IPC department. As I say though, really hard to tell from one benchmark and an unknown boost clock - does L3 matter a lot in that benchmark or not, for example?

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Raven Ridge has the same cores as Ryzen AFAIK,but the boosting mechanism is from Ryzen 2.

If there is any apparent IPC improvement it must be down to the single CCX configuration, as software which is not aware of a pair of CCX modules probably has a performance hit.

Leaked pricing from a very large international retailer with a presence in Spain and the UK indicates pricing in Euro with 21% VAT to be around £85 for the Ryzen 3 2200G and around £135 for the Ryzen 5 2400G.

 

[humbug]

Guy got the 2400G yesterday, early delivery from Amazon, They taken the sale of the 2400G down now tell Monday.


I See you found the guy also, B12b6

I haven't watched all of it and i'm not going to, lethargic drunk annoyed me after about 10 minutes...... Killing Floor 2: 45 to 50 FPS with occasional dips into the 30's on medium settings at 1080P, that's excellent, its all i need to know.

 

[humbug]

We don't know the boost details yet but if it's similar to the other 4 core Ryzens it'll boost by 100 MHz when using all cores. If so, it's running with a ~3% higher clock speed, doesn't have the infinity fabric bottleneck, but has a quarter of the L3 cache, and scores the same as an R5 1500X. Really hard to compare to be honest. It's supposed to have all the new features of the Pinnacle Ridge chips (aside from the 12 nm process), which to me suggests not much improvement is coming in the IPC department. As I say though, really hard to tell from one benchmark and an unknown boost clock - does L3 matter a lot in that benchmark or not, for example?

Raven Ridge has the same cores as Ryzen AFAIK,but the boosting mechanism is from Ryzen 2.

If there is any apparent IPC improvement it must be down to the single CCX configuration, as software which is not aware of a pair of CCX modules probably has a performance hit.

Leaked pricing from a very large international retailer with a presence in Spain and the UK indicates pricing in Euro with 21% VAT to be around £85 for the Ryzen 3 2200G and around £135 for the Ryzen 5 2400G.

Correct, there is 0 architectural difference between Zen 1 and RR, they just have the boost algorithm from Zen 2, that's firmware, other than that the 2400G is a 1500X with an iGPU.

 

[d_brennen]

Waiting for a NUC sized mini 2400G...

 

[Darren_uk]

Waiting for a NUC sized mini 2400G...

Could Go for a, what i am
Gigabyte AB350N-GAMING WIFI , Have More ports than a NUC Mini with better upgrade options
Silverstone MILO MINI-ITX CASE. 7 Liters, Smaller than the danA4 Case & Much cheaper

 

[DragonQ]

Correct, there is 0 architectural difference between Zen 1 and RR, they just have the boost algorithm from Zen 2, that's firmware, other than that the 2400G is a 1500X with an iGPU.

Ah OK, it's all very confusing with two completely different "second generation" Ryzen chips around.

 

[humbug]

AMD are not helpful, what they used to call Zen+ was originally meant to be on 14nm+, literally just a refresh, the same thing on a better process node.

14nm+ is no longer a thing, now its 12nm and because its more than just a process node transfer, IE there will be some low hanging fruit architectural improvements AMD are now calling it Zen 2.

But the 2000 series APU's are not Zen 2.... mind ####

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Waiting for a NUC sized mini 2400G...

Zotac is already on the case:

https://www.anandtech.com/show/12319/zotac-displays-zbox-ma551-an-amd-raven-ridgebased-sff-pc

 

[d_brennen]

Available with no OS too

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Wow:

https://youtu.be/PrRvBWZ1AFA?t=16522

I really hope the chap is showing true results!! 50FPS to 60FPS at 1080p on GTA V on low settings with 2666MHZ DDR4,and he is not even using proper drivers apparently.

Edit!!

35FPS to 50FPS on PUBG at very low settings at 1080p.

 

[Klo]

Wow:

https://youtu.be/PrRvBWZ1AFA?t=16522

I really hope the chap is showing true results!! 50FPS to 60FPS at 1080p on GTA V on low settings with 2666MHZ DDR4,and he is not even using proper drivers apparently.

Edit!!

35FPS to 50FPS on PUBG at very low settings at 1080p.

PUBG is very badly programmed though.

 

[4K8KW10]

PUBG is very badly programmed though.

The entire industry with those not competing AMD in the graphics department, games that technically rival their 5-10-year-old predecessors, the mining craze, just more and more looks like a terrible circus in which some big sharks earn a lot of money, and the poor consumers get ever more poor...