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*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

ahar said:
Spoke too soon - Win 10 has started complaining about being activated (which is odd given it was fine before) and the troubleshooter isn't working.

Had to find and enter my old WIn 7 licence key in the end, even though I followed the instructions to link it to my MS account and the MS account clearly had it linked!
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Was your Win7 key Retail or OEM ? If it was OEM then it will stop working at some point anyway. You can't migrate any Win OEM key to a completely different system, all you can do is update parts of that system.
 
ahar said:
Spoke too soon - Win 10 has started complaining about being activated (which is odd given it was fine before) and the troubleshooter isn't working.

Had to find and enter my old WIn 7 licence key in the end, even though I followed the instructions to link it to my MS account and the MS account clearly had it linked!
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Just been though the same painful process and even rang MS which was a massive waste of time.

It was Win7 Pro retail, just done the pain in the bottom re-install and couldn't get Win10 to activate despite choosing the I've upgraded my hardware , and my old PC which was linked etc to my ms account. Kept getting an activation error which didnt seem promising, as MS offered me Win 10 pro at £219.99 ( **** off)

Tried ringing MS which got me nowhere, but eventually tried re-inputting my Win7 key after much rooting around in the loft for the CD, which actually worked and all is up and running.

So dont know why my MS account wouldnt link to the Win10 acc, but if all fails dig out your Win7 key and input it.
 
neil473 said:
Just been though the same painful process and even rang MS which was a massive waste of time.

It was Win7 Pro retail, just done the pain in the bottom re-install and couldn't get Win10 to activate despite choosing the I've upgraded my hardware , and my old PC which was linked etc to my ms account. Kept getting an activation error which didnt seem promising, as MS offered me Win 10 pro at £219.99 ( **** off)

Tried ringing MS which got me nowhere, but eventually tried re-inputting my Win7 key after much rooting around in the loft for the CD, which actually worked and all is up and running.

So dont know why my MS account wouldnt link to the Win10 acc, but if all fails dig out your Win7 key and input it.
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Same problem here when i did my Ryzen build, I linked Windows 10 to my microsoft account as recommended before the build, I fired up the new Ryzen build and it wouldn't activate, Dug out my Windows 8.1 retail discs and used the key, Been fine for 14 months touch wood.
 
Last year MS update to my win 10 desktop 'nuked' it. Update started and left it too it only to come back to a dead machine. Long story short I was unable to resurrect it. I had a free upgrade to win 10 from win 7pro. I had to reinstall win 10 with what I thought was my upgrade key. Needless to say it wouldn't activate. Rang MS who were as much use as tooth ache - they were keen to sell me a new licence. Simple answer was to google 'win 10 licence' for best price and bought 2 licenses off a dutch outfit for £20. These were not oem licences BTW. Anyway sorted the issue and activated fine.
 
So I finally switched from my tried and true 4930k to a 2700x and just wanted to say I couldn't be happier!!! Holy hell it really did make a difference. I know the 4930k isn't beast compared to todays cpu's, but at 4.5ghz it did pretty damn well for it's age. Directly comparing it with the Vega 64 I'm running is quite a jump in fps, but most notably the minimum fps especially in games like the Witcher 3. Gpu usage in W3 with the intel cpu while in cities would be in the 70 to 80% range a lot of times and with the 2700x it's pegged and the fps skyrocketed up to match. Biggest surprise was Escape from Tarkov! Even with my Vega 64 on the intel that game ran like utter trash and I had a feeling it was a cpu bottleneck because the higher the resolution and gpu effects the "better" it ran within reason, but still probably average of 30fps at best. Now?? Pretty much everything on high except ssao and it is night and day difference. The mouse actually has direct input and the game is so smooth and I'm almost always at or over 60fps! I truly didn't think even this cpu would make a difference, but I am beyond impressed!!!! I actually truly enjoy EFT now :)

I also spent about 4 hours straight dialing in my ram timings, mostly the 500 or so sub timings, and am very pleased with my final settings thanks to the ram calculator tool. I couldn't go exactly to what was listed in the calculator so that's what took so long as I was slowly dialing in which ones needed to be touched up. Ran memtest overnight to make sure it was truly stable with no errors.

Either way just wanted to let anyone that's on the fence with an early 6 core intel know that making the switch is worth it!

One question though.. in games my cpu holds 4100 - 4125mhz no problem at a peak of around 52c. I'm happy with this, but I would like to see if I can get xfr/pb to go up more possibly. Just really want to hit that 4.2 all cores without doing a manual oc. I read you can unlock the PB override? I attempted this on my asrock taichi board and it won't boot lol so I've left it alone. Any help is appreciated! Thanks for reading my rant :)

note: geardownmode is currently disabled lol
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Well thats annoying.......I got some teamgroup extreme 8 pack memory from the members market, 4000 rated stuff, couldn't get it working at all with my CH6/2700X build even at a lowly 3200.

Just put it into sons christmas build, 2600 and msi x370 sli plus board, bang straight to 3200 "fast" settings. Then tried 3466 "fast" settings, straight to that, ramtest 500% pass......:p (will test for longer but seems good)
 
chroniclard said:
Well thats annoying.......I got some teamgroup extreme 8 pack memory from the members market, 4000 rated stuff, couldn't get it working at all with my CH6/2700X build even at a lowly 3200.

Just put it into sons christmas build, 2600 and msi x370 sli plus board, bang straight to 3200 "fast" settings. Then tried 3466 "fast" settings, straight to that, ramtest 500% pass......:p (will test for longer but seems good)
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What Bios you running? i updated mine to the latest last night, i cant get my 3400mhz ram running over 3200mhz regardless of what settings i pick lol.
 
I am officially the proud owner of a 2700X now. Trying to wrap my head around overclocking it.

Temps in ryzen master seem to be 10C lower than afterburner (not sure which to trust here), and also trying to work out what volts I should be using for a 4.1GHz overclock. Auto seems to set it to 1.458V (seems high!) at stock clocks, but manually setting that voltage shoots temps right up. Is AMD cool and quiet the equivalent of C states? I'd like the cpu to downclock and downvolt at idle, rather than blasting all cores at max the whole time. Is that what I need to enable?
 
Devrij said:
I am officially the proud owner of a 2700X now. Trying to wrap my head around overclocking it.

Temps in ryzen master seem to be 10C lower than afterburner (not sure which to trust here), and also trying to work out what volts I should be using for a 4.1GHz overclock. Auto seems to set it to 1.458V (seems high!) at stock clocks, but manually setting that voltage shoots temps right up. Is AMD cool and quiet the equivalent of C states? I'd like the cpu to downclock and downvolt at idle, rather than blasting all cores at max the whole time. Is that what I need to enable?
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The ***X processors are essentially already at near full overclock! if you wanted to overclock you should have probably gone for the 2700
 
Devrij said:
I am officially the proud owner of a 2700X now. Trying to wrap my head around overclocking it.

Temps in ryzen master seem to be 10C lower than afterburner (not sure which to trust here), and also trying to work out what volts I should be using for a 4.1GHz overclock. Auto seems to set it to 1.458V (seems high!) at stock clocks, but manually setting that voltage shoots temps right up. Is AMD cool and quiet the equivalent of C states? I'd like the cpu to downclock and downvolt at idle, rather than blasting all cores at max the whole time. Is that what I need to enable?
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I'd run it at stock settings and let XFR do it's thing and boost you to 4.3 itself. Would help with temps and volts too.

1.458V is high, if overclocking then you could look to drop that manually and sort your RAM timings to maximise your performance.
 
Praz94 said:
The ***X processors are essentially already at near full overclock! if you wanted to overclock you should have probably gone for the 2700
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Okay thanks. All cores loaded it runs at 3825MHz, but I can have it run at 4.1GHZ just fine on all cores (not that I need it, but since when does that matter). I hadn't intended to overclock it beyond the boost clock, just to get it so all the cores would boost up to the max boost when needed.
 
If your temps are good it'll xfr to at least 4.1 all cores in game. Mine never goes under 4125mhz everything on auto. Biggest performance gain you'll get is really spending the time to dial in your ram, especially sub timings! That made a very nice jump in fps/ consistent frame times for me.
 
Saw this posted in another thread and thought it would be useful in here too :)

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Bought a 2700x recently and finally moved everything to new case and watercooled, haven't done a lot of tweaking, other than 3200 xmp and PBO turned on + voltage offset at -0.06250. Do temps seem ok and is there much to be gained on 2700x by going manual rather than PBO ?

Really Happy with temps on Vega 64, was the LC and was ok , but have swapped out for a EK Phoenix kit on CPU / GPU with 360 rad. Used Thermal Grizzly and dosed the GPU in paste, was definately lacking on the old cooler when taken off. Previously Hot Spot was hitting 90 degrees and now its generally 67-70 on a long BF5 session. Havent undervolted etc yet, will have a play this weekend.

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Finally! Asrock has a proper bios that allows PBO on the taichi :)

Bios P2.00 is the jam! Also supports the latest Agesa 1.0.0.6 or whatever it is haha.

Just pulling back cpu offset to -.0625v and turning PBO on (no custom pstates or anything else) and my 3466 cl14 ram I'm hitting 1926 in CB r15. I couldn't do that with a 102bclk on the older bios.

So anyone with an X470 taichi / ultimate get the new bios!

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