Caporegime
Doesn't even have the latest version of FSR 2 and the implementation it does have is just hook it in and call it done so we can say we didn't block it......
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AMD's FSR3 possibly next month ?
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Doesn't even have the latest version of FSR 2 and the implementation it does have is just hook it in and call it done so we can say we didn't block it......
Soldato
I hear Star Citizen is going to be released with FSR 7, can't wait to see what advances that brings!
Man of Honour
Just FSR things
XeSS in Cyberpunk has been implemented very well, although XeSS is superior to FSR anyway. There's a common theme here... They can't even get FSR working effectively on games that are AMD sponsored for starters.
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Caporegime
Well that can't be true.... if if GPU's are still a thing its too soon for anything in Star Citizen.
PS: they are working on getting RT in.... that should be fun
Caporegime
oh.... wait, this latest patch has HDR. the world must be coming to an end...
And you're wrong there too.
FSR 2 in cp 2077 is actually one of the better FSR implementations.
Just FSR things
XeSS in Cyberpunk has been implemented very well, although XeSS is superior to FSR anyway. There's a common theme here... They can't even get FSR working effectively on games that are AMD sponsored for starters.
Exactly.
But amd know what is best for everyone.....
I rather they just focus on getting FSR 2 quality consistently good as well as the lower presets being improved than focusing on FSR 3/FG now.
Cyberpunk is on the list of confirmed FSR 3 games, so it'll likely come with the expansion update. Also, the implementation of FSR 2 isn't bad apart from the ghosting behind cars, which was fixed at one point and then broken again with a patch.
Caporegime
I don't trust anything RT or upscaling in Cyberpunk, too much Nvidia involvement.....
Man of Honour
What don't you trust? The RT is well established, the issue is the denoiser artefact noise and lighting reflection latency, both of which are now completely resolved with Ray Reconstruction
This advancement will apply to more than just Cyberpunk too, technically it can apply to any game that has ray tracing.
What don't you trust? The RT is well established, the issue is the denoiser artefact noise and lighting reflection latency, both of which are now completely resolved with Ray Reconstruction
This advancement will apply to more than just Cyberpunk too, technically it can apply to any game that has ray tracing.
Have you not seen who you are replying to?
CP 2077 should be heralded as the next coming with what CDPR have achieved. No game can touch the visuals let alone how well it performs but sadly the "nvidia" sponsorship blinds people to the technical achievement achieved here.
I'm looking forward to trying out FSR 3 when it arrives in cp 2077 but path tracing will still be a no go given fps is around 45 fps, but with the psycho ray tracing, currently I get 65+ fps so it should work nicely here (assuming FSR 3 is as good as shown....)
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Man of Honour
So previously I read that FSR 3 will support any GPU, all's good there, now I've read that it will also support any game as well:
www.extremetech.com
This could be huge providing that IQ and the gains match or beat Frame Generation.
If this pans out well, then the only reason people would get an RTX card is for ray tracing advances like Ray reconstruction from DLSS 3.5 - AMD has no future project to clean up noisy ray ray tracing or improve the light reflection latency currently seen on anything using RTGI or path tracing, so it could well be that the overall image quality sides with Nvdiia, whilst the broader gaming performance sides with AMD if every game using DX11 onwards works with FSR3 on any GPU.
The other thing to keep in mind is how they will tackle the latency that inserted frames brings to the game. Since any game DX11 and up can use it, there won't be Reflex style options in the game to enable, so will be interesting to see what AMD has planned to tackle increased latency.
AMD's FSR 3 Frame Generation Technology Is Coming to All Modern PC Games in Early 2024
The move by AMD could massively boost fps for all GPU owners, including those with older Nvidia cards.
www.extremetech.com
This could be huge providing that IQ and the gains match or beat Frame Generation.
If this pans out well, then the only reason people would get an RTX card is for ray tracing advances like Ray reconstruction from DLSS 3.5 - AMD has no future project to clean up noisy ray ray tracing or improve the light reflection latency currently seen on anything using RTGI or path tracing, so it could well be that the overall image quality sides with Nvdiia, whilst the broader gaming performance sides with AMD if every game using DX11 onwards works with FSR3 on any GPU.
The other thing to keep in mind is how they will tackle the latency that inserted frames brings to the game. Since any game DX11 and up can use it, there won't be Reflex style options in the game to enable, so will be interesting to see what AMD has planned to tackle increased latency.
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I think the issue with CP2077 isn't what it looks like it's just a boring game. In fact I'd say the vast majority of new games are pretty lacklustre, similar to the output of Hollywood. The irony is some of the best games have not been very visually impressive at all.Have you not seen who you are replying to?
CP 2077 should be heralded as the next coming with what CDPR have achieved. No game can touch the visuals let alone how well it performs but sadly the "nvidia" sponsorship blinds people to the technical achievement achieved here.
I'm looking forward to trying out FSR 3 when it arrives in cp 2077 but path tracing will still be a no go given fps is around 45 fps, but with the psycho ray tracing, currently I get 65+ fps so it should work nicely here (assuming FSR 3 is as good as shown....)
So previously I read that FSR 3 will support any GPU, all's good there, now I've read that it will also support any game as well:
AMD's FSR 3 Frame Generation Technology Is Coming to All Modern PC Games in Early 2024
The move by AMD could massively boost fps for all GPU owners, including those with older Nvidia cards.
This could be huge providing that IQ and the gains match or beat Frame Generation.
If this pans out well, then the only reason people would get an RTX card is for ray tracing advances like Ray reconstruction from DLSS 3.5 - AMD has no future project to clean up noisy ray ray tracing or improve the light reflection latency currently seen on anything using RTGI or path tracing, so it could well be that the overall image quality sides with Nvdiia, whilst the broader gaming performance sides with AMD if every game using DX11 onwards works with FSR3 on any GPU.
The other thing to keep in mind is how they will tackle the latency that inserted frames brings to the game. Since any game DX11 and up can use it, there won't be Reflex style options in the game to enable, so will be interesting to see what AMD has planned to tackle increased latency.
Latency will only probably be acceptable on rdna 3 hardware but we'll see:
Each to their own and all that. 180 hours in here and loved it, played on launch on vega 56, was great, played 2 times through with 3080, was great but that world setting was made for me
Caporegime
So previously I read that FSR 3 will support any GPU, all's good there, now I've read that it will also support any game as well:
AMD's FSR 3 Frame Generation Technology Is Coming to All Modern PC Games in Early 2024
The move by AMD could massively boost fps for all GPU owners, including those with older Nvidia cards.
This could be huge providing that IQ and the gains match or beat Frame Generation.
If this pans out well, then the only reason people would get an RTX card is for ray tracing advances like Ray reconstruction from DLSS 3.5 - AMD has no future project to clean up noisy ray ray tracing or improve the light reflection latency currently seen on anything using RTGI or path tracing, so it could well be that the overall image quality sides with Nvdiia, whilst the broader gaming performance sides with AMD if every game using DX11 onwards works with FSR3 on any GPU.
The other thing to keep in mind is how they will tackle the latency that inserted frames brings to the game. Since any game DX11 and up can use it, there won't be Reflex style options in the game to enable, so will be interesting to see what AMD has planned to tackle increased latency.
There is a problem with all this stuff on the Nvidia side, they use RT and DLSS as a way to add value, monetary value.
I was just in a conversation with a mate who was looking to replace his ageing 1080Ti, last night when we parted he had decided on the 4080, he's just messaged me this morning saying he has just bought the RX 7900XTX, saying he just couldn't stomach the price of the 4080 and couldn't really workout why it was so expensive.
I'll copy this part of my conversation with him here.
I think what Nvidia are doing is selling you very overpriced hardware to get DLSS, and tech jurnoes are unwittingly or not affirming Nvidia in this, this crap with "AMD blocking DLSS in Starfield"
They aren't, that was a Bethesda choice, or just a lack of time to add it 'yet' nothing at all to do with AMD.
It was Nvidia who seeded that and tech jurnoes ran with it, because they are useful idiots!
And they always do this crap while claiming to be on the side of all consumers, yet they know as well as anyone the only people effected by it are those who spend new money on Nvidia's latest's hardware.
They are so far down the Nvidia rabbit hole they behave like rabid Nvidia fanboys with no sense of it what so ever, and its a problem, its a serious problem that needs to be addressed.
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I've come across the same people, probably also think there are only iPhones or Samsung phones! I have had some success though a friend now has the same AMD set-up as me and is very happy with it.
That article does a terrible job of explaining what this actually is - it's an AMD driver feature (i.e. only RDNA cards) that does upscaling and frame generation at a driver level without access to the game's buffers or motion vectors.So previously I read that FSR 3 will support any GPU, all's good there, now I've read that it will also support any game as well:
AMD's FSR 3 Frame Generation Technology Is Coming to All Modern PC Games in Early 2024
The move by AMD could massively boost fps for all GPU owners, including those with older Nvidia cards.
FSR upscaling is already available in the drivers (I think it's called AMD Boost) but it's just doing simple 2D spatial upscaling (including the UI) - it's not very pretty (the Steam Deck can do it too and it's a real last-resort thing).
Digital Foundry saw it in action:
"AMD was a little guarded when they showed us the TLOUp1 demo, because it was early and an optical flow-only solution will not match the quality of FSR 3 or DLSS 3 in most content. This is a tech with obvious limitations."
AMD reveals long-awaited FSR 3 tech and frame gen for every DX11/DX12 game
DF goes 'eyes on' with FSR 3 - and a new AMD frame-gen solution that works with every DX11 and DX12 game.
www.eurogamer.net
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Tbf if you buy AMD you are slightly unhinged
Tbf if you buy AMD you are slightly unhinged
I take pride in not running with the pack
Caporegime
Tbf if you buy AMD you are slightly unhinged
Well, being normal is boring anyway...