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AMD's FSR3 possibly next month ?
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So then amd customers/fans.... Thoughts on fake frames now? 
Yup pretty much Although it may actually be beneficial if your base fps is already high and you're on a high refresh rate display.
We need some proper latency testing as in theory it will improve smoothness but increase latency.
For competitive multiplayer games you want lower latency above anything else.
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No thanks. Native all the waySo then amd customers/fans.... Thoughts on fake frames now?
If the hardware is good enough for your resolution you're fine. If not buy better hardware or drop your resolution. If you have a low end GPU on 1080p and it allows you to play fair enough. If you have a 4090 and are using it you're doing something wrong 
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So then amd customers/fans.... Thoughts on fake frames now?
Yup pretty much Although it may actually be beneficial if your base fps is already high and you're on a high refresh rate display.
More interested in the Native AA mode. If that gives a better image with little hit to fps then it's something i might use. For now i should be ok without FG in the games i play. At least it's there as an option and a tick box. If it comes into any games i play i will give it a shot to give real feedback as i can't feel how it plays from video's and there is no latency tests out yet. Latency is my main concern as a lot of games i play are high pace.
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I don't think FSR3 did much to improve the foliage and grass, frame generation on or off. It's still fairly aliased compared to DLSS. On a 3080 at least, FG does work in nudging 60fps to 90fps at 4k (at lower resolutions and settings it scales higher). If I dial up the settings and res and get about 40-50fps without FG, turning it on boosts the frame rate but it's weirdly stuttery.
Man of Honour
So yeah, the background foliage and stuff is fine with FSR3 FG enabled, it's stuff closer to you where you can scrutinise temporal instability, it's like the other end of DLSS + Frame Gen.
Look where the water meets the soil and the tall grass right next to it.
FSR3 Quality + FG:
Native:
These are 100% crops from 3440x1440 for reference. All things considered, it's not a major deal breaker and you have to be looking for it to see it.
Look where the water meets the soil and the tall grass right next to it.
FSR3 Quality + FG:
Native:
These are 100% crops from 3440x1440 for reference. All things considered, it's not a major deal breaker and you have to be looking for it to see it.
It's the old question, "Can you see it or are you looking for it?"So yeah, the background foliage and stuff is fine with FSR3 FG enabled, it's stuff closer to you where you can scrutinise temporal instability, it's like the other end of DLSS + Frame Gen.
Look where the water meets the soil and the tall grass right next to it.
FSR3 Quality + FG:
Native:
These are 100% crops from 3440x1440 for reference. All things considered, it's not a major deal breaker and you have to be looking for it to see it.
Tested it for a bit, it looks like they did a good job with it. Have seen no real downsides so far, but it does feel like you need it for >100 fps rather than anything lower because the difference at 80-90 fps (with it on) vs locked at 120 (my display cap) was significant. Heck, it felt like temporal stability is even better with it on than just FSR, so that's another plus.
For me the real test will be Cyberpunk, because I know it inside-out, as well as vs all other solutions. Will reserve final judgement for then. Forspoken I simply haven't played outside of demo testing tbh so who knows what the overall picture is.
I hope they also push it for consoles, it would be a huge deal for them and I think there's room to do it. So far FSR 3 is a universal win.
For me the real test will be Cyberpunk, because I know it inside-out, as well as vs all other solutions. Will reserve final judgement for then. Forspoken I simply haven't played outside of demo testing tbh so who knows what the overall picture is.
I hope they also push it for consoles, it would be a huge deal for them and I think there's room to do it. So far FSR 3 is a universal win.
Man of Honour
I'm not using any fps caps btw, the game's video tab has a setting to set an fps cap, there is no off option, it goes from 30fps to 240fps
Caporegime
So yeah, the background foliage and stuff is fine with FSR3 FG enabled, it's stuff closer to you where you can scrutinise temporal instability, it's like the other end of DLSS + Frame Gen.
Look where the water meets the soil and the tall grass right next to it.
FSR3 Quality + FG:
Native:
These are 100% crops from 3440x1440 for reference. All things considered, it's not a major deal breaker and you have to be looking for it to see it.
High res screenshots would be better, these gifs are too small to see anything.
It's the old question, "Can you see it or are you looking for it?"
I think some people just want to see it "OMG there's a slight shimmer on a blade of grass 5 miles away AMD FAILED".
Man of Honour
Not sure if that's a in-joke but I'm having fried bread dunked in tea and therefore I bid you adieu!
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Also if you can't see any issues at the 100% crops then it doesn't need anything "high res" being shown, 100% is 100%
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Yup,
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Caporegime
If it needs to be in motion make a video, they are 460 X 300, the only way to play them at not thumbnail size is to download them and then they are a pixilated mess.
Best to wait and gather your evidence before making claims.
Man of Honour
They are 100% crops, what part of that is difficult to understand lol. All I did was crop only that area where I could see a difference after looking for them, and exported that area was a high quality GIF. Don't need a video for that, you would be simply viewing the exact same section area just on a full screen video.
The GIFs I posted work perfectly to demonstrate the temporal instability, and that it's a non-issue. Nothing else needs to be done.
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Hence why I listed all "possible" scenarios....
Well no, shimmering in certain games is extremely distracting especially if you're sensitive to it e.g. Spiderman smaa Vs dlss (I did this video because people kept banging on about how we just need to use better aa methods rather than rely on dlss/dlaa and supposedly smaa was regarded as being the best but from a temporal stability pov, not in the slightest does it help overall iq in motion).
The more people point out the issues, the sooner said companies will be to act and improve their solutions otherwise if everyone says it's great (even if proven otherwise....) then it will never improve... And this goes for all companies and their solutions but sadly it seems amd fans are happy to settle for "just good enough" and wait months/years for competing solutions rather than pushing amd to improve.
So far fsr 3 sounds/looks great but that doesn't mean there might not be room for improvement, same with nvidias frame gen as it's not perfect either and again, the real story will be when it comes to games outside of the initial pr showcases e.g. deahtloop Vs fsr 2 out in the wild, something which a lot seem to have forgotten about....
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