An iPad Thread.

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bigredshark said:
So here's a thing, does it really irritate anyone else that despite not having a UK price announced yet, Apple are using the 'at an unbelievable price' strap line on the UK site. Grrr, they've even produced localised images showing the guardian website but couldn't tidy that up or publish a damn price?
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Yes that grated me a bit too, to be honest it all hangs in the balence for me, but picturing Air Mouse on it, seeing as all my Tv and Movies are on the Pc, im thinking that and sitting up in bed mucking about the net would be hard to resist, but I have a deep felng we are gonna get slapped with an unfair price.
 
cu3ed said:
Yes that grated me a bit too, to be honest it all hangs in the balence for me, but picturing Air Mouse on it, seeing as all my Tv and Movies are on the Pc, im thinking that and sitting up in bed mucking about the net would be hard to resist, but I have a deep felng we are gonna get slapped with an unfair price.
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Undoubtedly - Apple see all consumers as mugs - especially early adopters. They know there are enough people out there with more money than sense to get this sort of tripe to market.

I'm building my only tablet PC out of a laptop for the princely sum of £275 including the laptop (15.4"), touch screen overlay, replacement LCD screen (hence the cheap price for the lappy) and all tools and the OS (Windows 7 home Prem) to complete the job.

It will have a fully working OS with flash, HTML5 and whatever else I choose to throw at it, a DVD-RW drive, 4 USB ports, VGA out, Built in Webcam and Mic and if I decide to go completely overboard, an accelerometer. The only thing it will be lacking is multitouch assuming that Windows 7 will not respond with a resistive touch overlay.
 
SteveOBHave said:
The only thing it will be lacking is multitouch assuming that Windows 7 will not respond with a resistive touch overlay.
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And a really touch-oriented slick interface, along with an app-store containing lots of apps designed for such a device :D

Personally, I'll buy one as soon as I can for:

1) eBooks, HTTP, NNTP, IRC, photos, videos.
2) MIDI/OSC touch controller (affordable Lemur)
3) Games.
4) Apps I write myself.

I realise many people don't want it / think it's too expensive / hate apple / want a laptop... In some ways I wish Jobs had sorted that by addressing them in the launch and saying "This isn't for you. Don't buy it and go play somewhere else" ;)

It's exactly what I wanted, and I'll be happy with it. If they bring one out with a front-facing camera at a later date, I'll get one for my wife as well, which will replace her laptop for all uses, including Skype.
 
mr.sly said:
I don't think anyone is going to be reading a book for longer than 10 hours in one sitting, so I don't see a problem with the battery life.
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Testing consisted of full battery discharge while performing each of the following tasks: video playback, audio playback, and Internet browsing using Wi-Fi. Video content was a repeated 2-hour 23-minute movie purchased from the iTunes Store. Audio content was a playlist of 358 unique songs, consisting of a combination of songs imported from CDs using iTunes and songs purchased from the iTunes Store.

Internet over Wi-Fi tests were conducted using a closed network and dedicated web and mail servers, browsing snapshot versions of 20 popular web pages, and receiving mail once an hour. All settings were default except: Wi-Fi was associated with a network; the Wi-Fi feature Ask to Join Networks and Auto-Brightness were turned off. Battery life depends on device settings, usage, and many other factors. Battery tests are conducted using specific iPad units; actual results may vary.

Steve says that iPad will offer ~140 hours of continuous music playback provided the screen display is turned “off” while the battery will last for ~10 hours if you use it for reading books. Steve says that the iPad chip [A4] doesn’t use much power but the screen does. I guess the numbers would be similar for web surfing as well.

http://video.allthingsd.com/video/w...ple-ipad/B3007E41-259C-4357-961E-7DC2C453CD30
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Apple are like EA games. The first iteration is OK, but it could do or be so much more, so they release a newer version. Everyone who bought the original buys it too, again, it is better, but could do more...

Clever marketing, but sucks from a consumers point of view.
 
Souljacker said:
Apple are like EA games. The first iteration is OK, but it could do or be so much more, so they release a newer version. Everyone who bought the original buys it too, again, it is better, but could do more...

Clever marketing, but sucks from a consumers point of view.
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But what company isn't like that? Apple get it a lot closer to what people want from the first version than most other companies. How many Windows slate devices have we had so far and no one wants one? I bet it will still take them a few more devices before they realise they need to be using the Windows Phone 7 Series OS on a slate for it to be useful.
 

EVH How long does the battery actually last with video playback? I'm guessing something in the region of 6 hours?

SteveOBHave said:
It does bring us back to the question - why is Apple charging for one when they are only giving you a glorified mobile phone?
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They are not in reality. The Win7 machines that are coming on to the market are in the region of £700-£1000, the android and mobile OSX machines are coming in at around £300-600. The win7 machines are around the same price as a decentish small laptop and the android/ipads are coming in around the high end netbook/smartphone price.:)

mr.sly said:
But what company isn't like that? Apple get it a lot closer to what people want from the first version than most other companies. How many Windows slate devices have we had so far and no one wants one? I bet it will still take them a few more devices before they realise they need to be using the Windows Phone 7 Series OS on a slate for it to be useful.
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1 (that I know of), which is the Archos 9, which in fact has been a nice little earner for them recently. There are a few more coming to market in the next few months with current tech. Obviously there have been some in the past, both tablet and slate forms, but they ran XP and were almost specifically targeted ab business and not consumer....

TBH I,m still not convinced mobile OS's are the right way to go, if you want a glorified e-reader then yeah that's a good choice (and I realise a lot of people do), however a lot of people also want a slate device as powerrful as a small laptop (no, not those rubbish netbook things) and the tech for that has only really just started to come to the market, for example the macbook air and Dell Adamo have only been on the market for a couple of years, which use similar tech.
 
When you say as powerful as a small laptop are you talking about hardware (CPU speed, RAM etc) or do you mean a full install of Windows 7 on a slate device?
 
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Amp34 said:
however a lot of people also want a slate device as powerrful as a small laptop (no, not those rubbish netbook things).
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Actually I'm fairly sure that HP, IBM and various others have disproved that idea in partnership with Microsoft as the lacklustre take up of tablets in the last 10 years or so has reflected. Maybe you want one but there's no evidence that 'a lot' of people do from the commercial side.
 
mr.sly said:
When you say as powerful as a small laptop are you talking about hardware (CPU speed, RAM etc) or do you mean a full install of Windows 7 on a slate device?
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Both.

bigredshark said:
Actually I'm fairly sure that HP, IBM and various others have disproved that idea in partnership with Microsoft as the lacklustre take up of tablets in the last 10 years or so has reflected. Maybe you want one but there's no evidence that 'a lot' of people do from the commercial side.
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Their ideas of tablets have been big laptops with touchscreens, not a slate device. There have been some slate type devices around but they have been very expensive and aimed primarily at the professional (medical/audit) market. The ones coming out now have an OS designed to work with multitouch screens, components that are cheap, low power yet powerful enough to do most tasks. There are a large number of companies taking the punt, with almost as many win7 slates coming out as Andriod. I never wanted one of the old tablets, but a modern slate is something I'd be very interested in. There's also a huge number of media people (photographers, drawers/designers) who want a slate with a digitizer for using pens, an android/ipad slate isn't going to allow this.
 
Souljacker said:
Apple are like EA games. The first iteration is OK, but it could do or be so much more, so they release a newer version. Everyone who bought the original buys it too, again, it is better, but could do more...

Clever marketing, but sucks from a consumers point of view.
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Microsoft's thinking for the new Windows Phone 7 series is "crawl, walk, run".

I'm pretty sure lots of other companies (not just Microsoft and Apple) introduce version 1 products with limited capability, knowing that they could easily have included much more.. but choose to hold it back for revision 2, for sake of reliability and polish.

I can't speak for them, but it seems like you introduce a solid V1 product, get hype and early adopters (whilst gauging market reaction), act on the feedback and push the V2 product as the all-singing-all-dancing device.

EA are a shovelware company. Churning out games at a frightening pace, just to meet targets.
 
It's just a new gadget. Anyone know if there's a function or an app that physically allows you to write on the pad (with a stylus of some sort).
 
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