And your free Xbox Arcade game is

You're wrong.

Because I think it's rubbish, makes it rubbish.
Because others think it's great, makes it great.

It's about personal preference. I don't want someone making a decision on MY behalf and offering me something I don't want. It was my choice to purchase Live, it was my choice of what I spent my Christmas period playing and with whom.

Yet my Live purchase was 'disrupted', my choice of game was 'halted' and the people I wanted to play alongside were 'not available'.

In the very least, the fact that my freedom of choice was not honoured should be rewarded with something that IS my freedom of choice.

It's really easy to understand.

boo hoo cry me a river :(
 
You're wrong.

Because I think it's rubbish, makes it rubbish.
Because others think it's great, makes it great.

It's about personal preference. I don't want someone making a decision on MY behalf and offering me something I don't want. It was my choice to purchase Live, it was my choice of what I spent my Christmas period playing and with whom.

Yet my Live purchase was 'disrupted', my choice of game was 'halted' and the people I wanted to play alongside were 'not available'.

In the very least, the fact that my freedom of choice was not honoured should be rewarded with something that IS my freedom of choice.

It's really easy to understand.

Dude, that's a little ridiculous. :)
 
Why is it ridiculous?

If I'd gone out on Christmas Eve, bought COD4, spent £40 at the high street to play with my mates because they said how good it is, yet over the Xmas period couldn't play it because of the errors, then do you think I've a right to be pee'd off?

And if you DO think I have a right, why should I settle for having something that I don't want?

What am I missing?
 
TO be honest, I see J's point. We should all be getting a month Live for free, Not some game that most people don't' want. A free month on Live, I'm pretty sure everyone would be happy with.


I'm happy with this game, But that's because I'm an achievement junkie....No it doesn't show in my gamertag :o
 
Why is it ridiculous?

If I'd gone out on Christmas Eve, bought COD4, spent £40 at the high street to play with my mates because they said how good it is, yet over the Xmas period couldn't play it because of the errors, then do you think I've a right to be pee'd off?

And if you DO think I have a right, why should I settle for having something that I don't want?

What am I missing?

It's a goodwill gesture, that's all. They don't have to offer anything.

You worded that like it's a hypothetical situation..did you actually do what you said? Were you actually genuinely put out, or just couldn't get online a few times?

The logistics of offering a month's free live would be far, far too involved - having to cancel and restart direct debits (monthly and annual) would incur such large costs it's just not worth doing.

It's just one of those things people, no big deal. Annoying, sure. Nothing more than that. I pay about 4 quid a month for a superb service, one that lets me play great games online, download demos, arcade games, rent movies etc. I'm more than happy.
 
Why a month? The disruption didn't last anywhere near a month.

Wasn't far off it. Add to that, it was during a period when people would use their live membership the most due to being on holiday, it would equate to a month.

The thing with the free live game, you can claim in a few day window is, it wont cost them much, most folk wont d/l it etc. I am gonna download it just so they have to pay money to the dev and it costs them money. Though i probably wont pay it.
If they extended everybodies membership by a month, then it would cost them.
 
Why is it ridiculous?

If I'd gone out on Christmas Eve, bought COD4, spent £40 at the high street to play with my mates because they said how good it is, yet over the Xmas period couldn't play it because of the errors, then do you think I've a right to be pee'd off?

And if you DO think I have a right, why should I settle for having something that I don't want?

What am I missing?

Player matches worked perfectly all during the sticky time Live had, Live was never down, you could still connect, still set up matches and still invite friends.
 
It's a goodwill gesture, that's all. They don't have to offer anything.

You worded that like it's a hypothetical situation..did you actually do what you said?

The logistics of offering a month's free live would be far, far too involved - having to cancel and restart direct debits (monthly and annual) would incur such large costs it's just not worth doing.

It's just one of those things people, no big deal. Annoying, sure. Nothing more than that. I pay about 4 quid a month for a superb service, one that lets me play great games online, download demos, arcade games, rent movies etc. I'm more than happy.

You're right, it is a hypothetical situation and no I didn't do that, but let me make a couple of things clearer and why I think it's a bad decision, all none-hypothetical.

I pay roughly £40 a year for Live, that equates to roughly .76p a week. FANTASTIC deal, really it is.

Live has been going for 5 years, and while the service hasn't been 'off' altogether, it's been restricted, broken, simply hasn't done what it's intended to.

Agree?

Altogether, the services has been off for about 3 to 4 weeks, some it was 2, others 1, others 3½, it's irrelevant, but for the most, and under Microsofts admission, the services has been down approximately 2-3 week.

Agree?

Now I don't expect 1 month in return. It would be 'nice' if I'd have a week back, maybe even 2, but for the sake of a MAXIMUM loss of £3.04 I'm not really gonna quibble that much.

Personally, I'm in the group of people that aren't really bothered about the loss of service. It was annoying, but it wasn't an inconvenience to me, I didn't get irate like some did, I simply ejected COD4 and played something else.

But, if we got a refund, it would be a nice bonus, if we didn't, then so what - as people have said, Microsoft DON'T HAVE TO at all!

Agree?

However what has now transpired which winds me up a little, is Microsoft have decided to apologise. Thanks Jay and the team, no worries mate, I accept your apologies, here's to another 5 years of excellent service and fantastic price.

But they've also said what paramounts to:

Have a game, free of charge.
If you own it already, phone us up, we'll swap it.
If you don't like it - tough!

So there are people around the world, paying the same as me, that had the same inconvenience as me who will welcome this game.

There are people in the world who already have this game, and they'll get something else.

But there are also people in the world, who haven't got this game, don't like it (that's not been ungrateful), but will receive NOTHING!

That's what annoys me. Live going down was no big deal, it's not the end of the world and nor is this.

I just don't think Microsoft are been especially fair on this.
 
You know silver members are getting it too right? they don't even pay :D

does that make you feel worse? LOL

Doesn't make me feel worse no, I'm not that kinda person, but it kinda highlights my point that it's an unfair decission that Microsoft have made.:p
 
What time, GMT can we download it?
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Reminder: Undertow is now free

Undertow is now available, free of charge, until Sunday January 27th at 11:59pm PT.
Guess it's live now :D
 
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Why a month? The disruption didn't last anywhere near a month.

For arguements sake, an 800 point game equates to approximately 1 month worth of Live usage if you convert the points to pounds/dollars etc (I think).


rp2000

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What time, GMT can we download it?
PST is 8 hours behind GMT so 10am GMT. SO IT'S THERE NOW!!!


rp2000
 
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I bet I forget to download it!!!

Don't!!!! You have till Sunday, and Microsoft are probably praying that people forget to download this!!! It's free and you are entitled to it!!! Hopefully the amount of "xxxx is playing Undertow" on your Friends list tonight will serve as a gentle reminder!


rp2000
 
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