Another school shooting in the US

koolpc · 14 Dec 2012 at 20:38

Typical American event these days. Internet fuelled do you think?

Dist · 14 Dec 2012 at 20:40

I hope some of these reporters that went up to some of the children to interview them after the traumatic event get fired.

Goksly · 14 Dec 2012 at 20:43

On Thursday, one day before the tragedy in Connecticut where at least 29 people were killed at an elementary school, the Republican-controlled Michigan legislature passed a bill that would allow people to bring guns into schools.

just gets worse?

kokuten · 14 Dec 2012 at 20:45

horrible horrible tragedy, poor little bairns, a lot of lives ruined by this senseless act, i can't comprehend anyone wanting to harm something so small and innocent... horrible my thought go out to all those now broken families

Scam · 14 Dec 2012 at 20:45

I used to live about half an hour from there. I went to school there and everything. When people used to ask what it was like living in America I always used to describe Connecticut as the 'safe, normal part'

Dist · 14 Dec 2012 at 20:48

Goksly said:
just gets worse?

You can't compare the that recently passed law with what happened today. For a start it requires extra training requirements to carry a gun into a school, day care centers, stadiums, bars and other places where they were once forbidden. And even then there are possibilities for schools and privately owned companies to still ban concealed weapons.

Strife212 · 14 Dec 2012 at 20:48

Goksly said:
just gets worse?

What use is a no-gun zone in school? Think about it for a minute.

Someone who is about to walk in guns blazing doesn't care if the school says no guns or not!

estebanrey · 14 Dec 2012 at 20:48

olivier renault said:
Knifes are just too much hassle, you know. People run away, I get out of breath, and it's a little bit too personal for my taste. And getting close to your target also brings its own problems. They sometimes fight back and can be a disaster.

Reminds me of this....

NeilF · 14 Dec 2012 at 20:50

estebanrey said:
Funny then how these mass killings occur far more in gun loving America than anywhere else though....

And people want the laws changed here to allow gun ownership akin to the US here :eek:

We are so so lucky we have the Genie stuck in a bottle here. Of course we have gun crime, but it is very mininal as the guns in circulation are so few!

holymonk · 14 Dec 2012 at 20:50

estebanrey said:
If guns (in a combination with US society) isn't the issue, explain how the country with the most guns also has the most school shootings?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shooting#Notable_school_shootings

I agree, what a tool the prev posters statement was.

CaptainRAVE · 14 Dec 2012 at 20:53

Such a moving speech from the president - http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/...hey-had-their-entire-lives-ahead-of-them?lite

You can tell he is speaking as a father there rather than as the president.

deuse · 14 Dec 2012 at 20:54

Very very sad news

RIP

estebanrey · 14 Dec 2012 at 20:56

NeilFawcett said:
And people want the laws changed here to allow gun ownership akin to the US here

We are so so lucky we have the Genie stuck in a bottle here. Of course we have gun crime, but it is very mininal as the guns in circulation are so few!

Quite right.

It feels wrong trying to find silver lining from a school massacre but at the very least the parents of the children of the Dunblaine shooting know their kids din't die in vein, it sparked new and stricter gun laws and since then we've had zero school shootings.

In that same time frame since Dunblaine, thew US has suffered 84 school shootings incidents (included the latest one).

But of course, strict gun laws have no effect on mass school killings eh?

Malevolence · 14 Dec 2012 at 20:56

The mind just boggles.

The gunman, identified as Ryan Lanza, 24, of Hoboken, N.J., was also found dead at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, a federal law enforcement official said. Lanza's mother is a kindergarten teacher at the hilltop school,and it's inside her classroom where most of the casualties were found.

cymatty · 14 Dec 2012 at 20:57

holymonk said:
I agree, what a tool the prev posters statement was.

Oh, personal attack on me, you're lucky I dont have a gun or you would be dead.

You agree with the statement that it is a two pronged issue and that just because there are a large amount of guns per 100 people, that doesn't necessarily link to an increase in violence.

That really it is the people and the culture that seems to be the issue, so why not try to fix that. If you agree the culture is inherently predisposed to violence you must be pretty naive to think violent people would not resort to other methods to carry out their acts.

Strife212 · 14 Dec 2012 at 20:57

estebanrey said:
But of course, strict gun laws have no effect on mass school killings eh?

Switzerland has an assault rifle in most houses and there is no mass killings there ever. So, no, it literally has no effect.

NeilF · 14 Dec 2012 at 20:57

CaptainRAVE said:
Such a moving speech from the president - http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/...hey-had-their-entire-lives-ahead-of-them?lite

You can tell he is speaking as a father there rather than as the president.

I have a lot of time for him! Don't understand why a lot of American don't?!

davedudes · 14 Dec 2012 at 20:58

May be it is time for them to review their second amendment...

Azza · 14 Dec 2012 at 20:58

Sounds like he specifically went to look for his mother in the building.

NeilF · 14 Dec 2012 at 20:59

Strife212 said:
Switzerland has an assault rifle in most houses and there is no mass killings there ever.

It's clearly not as straight forward as more guns = more deaths...

BUT, I am absolutely certain, if we permitted more guns in the UK shootings would escalate! Our society I feel would not do well with more guns to hand!