'Anti' Isalm cartoons....

Right, there have been many representations of Jesus and God in the media, not all have been 'good'. in a comic you have God chatting girls up with magic tricks, ends up burning a bar down, then calls Jesus for help to get back to paradise. Seriously, these protests are stupid, whoevers organising them need to get locked up, only thing they do is make Muslims allover the world look bad.

Edit: I found this on SA lol
 
All of Islams problems these days are blamed on the Jews. Its the Jews on 911, the Jews on 7/7. My tortoise has more brainpower

>| Raoh |<
 
Found this in todays Mirror, thought it summed my thoughts exactly.

Tony Parsons said:
THE trouble with the West is that we have forgotten that some things are sacred.

We find it so difficult to comprehend the reaction of the Muslim world to that ham-fisted Danish cartoon depicting the Prophet Mohammed as a terrorist because our churches stand empty, our faith is weak and our God has left the building.

The idea that this is still a Christian country is laughable. We may haul in the local vicar for weddings and funerals, but that's about it. We worship our idols -celebrity and money, the sex lives of the rich and famous - but the Good Book is about as relevant to most of our lives as the ration book.

Christianity is widely mocked. The feeble humour of the Jerry Springer opera whipped up some half-hearted controversy, but nobody really cared beyond a few Bible-bashers considered to be humourless spoilsports.

Once this was a Christian country, back when we were all singing two hymns a day at school and fretting about burning in hell for our sins.

When I was a child, we could all chant the Lord's Prayer by heart. Do the Vicky Pollards of today know the Lord's Prayer? Can't see it, myself. So I feel an instinctive sympathy for Muslims who still hold to the belief that there is such a thing as blasphemy

The Muslim community say that those puerile Danish cartoons should not have been printed, and they are right. It would not have been censorship or the curtailment of free speech to not print (and reprint) the offending cartoon. It would have been basic human decency. It would have been cultural restraint at a time when tension between the West and the Muslim world is higher than it has been for centuries.


I have read a number of commentators say that they would "defend to the death" the right of some crappy little Danish paper to print their nasty little cartoons.


But if I am going to die for a cause, then it is going to be a better one than the right of some Scandy cartoonist to print offensive rubbish.


If we are going to argue with Muslims, then let it be about something worthwhile.


The attitude of Islam to women. The attitude of Islam to gays. The attitude of Islam to Israel, which is routinely threatened with extermination by everyone from Hamas to the leader of Iran to mad mullahs with spit on their beards in Finsbury Park.


Printing that cartoon was supremely stupid. Muslims have a right to live their lives without seeing their religion vilified in a way that is designed to cause hurt, anger and offence.


What Muslims should never have the right to do is what they did on the streets of London on Friday. Around 500 demonstrators marched from the Regent's Park mosque to the Danish embassy, carrying the most sickening placards I have ever seen in my life.


On the streets of the city where Londoners were murdered and maimed on July 7, the pinhead protesters carried slogans boasting: "Europe, you'll come crawling when mujahideen come roaring" and "Behead those who insult Islam". On the same streets where four terrorists committed mass murder, a placard gloated: "Europe you will pay - fantastic 4 are on their way".


A toddler, 20-month-old Farisa Jihad, was dressed by some moronic adult in a hat that sneered: "I love Al-Qaida".


And they got away with it. Nobody was arrested for these sickening incitements to murder. Nobody was charged for spewing slogans of hate that gloated about the dead and broken bodies of July 7.


And that offends me. That offends me to the core of my being.


Responsible Muslim leaders have already condemned the appalling placards. But it happened. And I can't think of any thing more likely to create real loathing for Muslims. I can't think of anything more likely to make the BNP a real force in British politics.


I can't think of anything more likely to make the average British citizen - whatever his colour - ask: Whose country is it anyway?


MUSLIMS deserve the respect accorded to all our people. They take their religion infinitely more seriously than we do, and we should understand that. And if they want to burn down a few empty Scandinavian embassies in Syria because of crass depictions of the Prophet Mohammed, then personally I couldn't care less.


But when someone starts carrying placards in my city gloating about 9/11 and 7/7, when men with big mouths start promising death and destruction, when you tell us that we will be massacred if we offend you, then our tolerance is pushed to breaking-point. Muslims deserve to have their faith respected.


But if they want a Muslim country, then perhaps they should go and live in one.
 
I disagree with Parsons that the cartoons shouldn't have been printed and that we should respect their religion. If I don't want to respect it then that's my right.

Actually I agree with the very last line of his article 100%.
 
dirtydog said:
I disagree with Parsons that the cartoons shouldn't have been printed and that we should respect their religion. If I don't want to respect it then that's my right.

Actually I agree with the very last line of his article 100%.

I'm with you on that. The risk with saying that the cartoons shouldn't have been printed, is that you can end up down the road of saying you shouldn't be allowed to print anything that criticises Islam or alludes to links with terrorism or whatever.
 
its like this... you can be killed for a cartoon?

Matt Groening, Trey Parker (South Park Creator??) Must be scared smissless

>| Raoh |<
 
We find it so difficult to comprehend the reaction of the Muslim world to that ham-fisted Danish cartoon depicting the Prophet Mohammed as a terrorist because our churches stand empty, our faith is weak and our God has left the building.

I believe to God, I am a Christian, yet I don't understand their reaction, is this man trying to say that all believers should act the same? It is true that this country is not religious, but to imply that any religious person would do whatever a few extremists are doing is silly.

Other than that I am with dirtydog on the last part of the article.
 
I also disagree with Mr Parsons and given the gutter rag he works for his comments are empty to me. However, he starts to move in the right direction when he mentions respect. Respect is something that you earn and you will not ne earned by the recent actions of the protesters.
 
Tony Parsons is an idiot, did anyone else watch him on This Week a few months ago when he manged to get a left wing labour MP and a right wing tory MP yellling at him at the same time.
 
Its stupid! They find a lot of western culture offensive and even christmas??? (i read it on the boards about them wanting to change it all). Its like u cant do anything without upsetting some 1 and it resulting in war. They dont take on our culture so why should people abide by theirs?
 
R5Rich said:
Its stupid! They find a lot of western culture offensive and even christmas??? (i read it on the boards about them wanting to change it all). Its like u cant do anything without upsetting some 1 and it resulting in war. They dont take on our culture so why should people abide by theirs?

Actually that's English white folk, not Asians, most of Asians are fine with Christmas, they are not the ones trying to change it.
 
pyro said:
Actually that's English white folk, not Asians, most of Asians are fine with Christmas, they are not the ones trying to change it.

Yeah people keep saying this and last time I was active in this forum I posted 4 recent (at the time) stories of Muslims demanding change - for example a muslim who complained that a council worker had a piglet soft toy on her desk and he found it offensive.
The "its the white PC bunch really" argument is only half true and there are planty of Muslims who do not like anything about our culture and do want to see it change.
 
agree with VIRII its like the case of that Muslim woman who had her boss sacked. At the Christmas party she asked why no Halal meat was prepared... he said something offensive and was later dismissed and she filed and won a lawsuit.

There are plenty of others like underwear poster 150yards from a Mosque taken down, and similarly in my neck of the woods, the Flag Pole in Cobridge Park ripped down twice (granted the local Ayatollahs and Mullahs saved to have it put back up again) but only after a local outcry.

>| Raoh |<
 
VIRII said:
Yeah people keep saying this and last time I was active in this forum I posted 4 recent (at the time) stories of Muslims demanding change - for example a muslim who complained that a council worker had a piglet soft toy on her desk and he found it offensive.
The "its the white PC bunch really" argument is only half true and there are planty of Muslims who do not like anything about our culture and do want to see it change.

Fair enough, I haven't seen any of these stories, and it sounds like they come from just a very few people that have something wrong in their heads, but from personal experience I found that Muslims are fine with Christian celebrations, as far as putting season's greetings in their stores.
 
Let me put something to every single one of you: Once the Muslim's "party" has ended, should we continue to allow them into Western countries?

We let them in, out of pure goodwill. They then demand we change something that we don't normally bat an eyelid to, purely because they don't like - usually because it's either racist or offensive. :rolleyes:

Severe extraction of the urine, or is it just me?
 
basmic said:
Let me put something to every single one of you: Once the Muslim's "party" has ended, should we continue to allow them into Western countries?

We let them in, out of pure goodwill. They then demand we change something that we don't normally bat an eyelid to, purely because they don't like - usually because it's either racist or offensive. :rolleyes:

Severe extraction of the urine, or is it just me?

We'll keep letting them in, though I imagine life will be harder for them here. It sucks for the regular Muslims, that they have to suffer for the actions of the few. Can't see the anti-Islam feeling going away any time soon.
 
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