Any news on 7800 xt?

[Murphy]

Yea i know i am just stating the reality of why on here they ain't fooling anybody that follows graphics cards as it's been obvious since release of the 7900's. That's why some of those on here are playing games like it's some kind of shock and outrage.

Yea, heaven forbid that people who actually understand what's happening actually call out bad practices, that they hold these companies to account in whatever, admittedly small, way they can.

 

[GhostDog1981]

Yea, heaven forbid that people who actually understand what's happening actually call out bad practices, that they hold these companies to account in whatever, admittedly small, way they can.

 

[Troezar]

Do you mean better because the likes of us were not part of it because "£2000 for a ******* toy"

Indeed, I couldn't afford it, I remember Intel and Nvidia being ridiculously expensive. MMO's really changed once they became mainstream. As much as "boomers" get moaned about look what happens once the kids get access to anything online

 

[Joxeon]

Its basically this.

RTX 2000 or whatever the AMD equivalent was? Seriously i don't even know..... then yes these are good options.

This is perhaps why the mixed feelings on them, its a 3080, with 16GB, for £200 off, if you already have one of those then its the 4080 for you, at £1100, that's on you, i mean the 7900XT is only £50 more than the 3080 was, you don't want that because its not Nvidia, that's why the 4080 is £1100.

These are decent cards for not much money.

As a 3080 owner the 4090 followed by 7900XTX are the most cost effective upgrade options with a 7900XT being the least cost effective, a 7900XT is 29% faster for £700 which means your paying £24 per percentage improvement, a 4080 is 48% faster for £1050 so a £22 per percentage improvement, a 7900XTX is 52% faster for £929 which works out at £17.80 per percent improvement and a 4090 at +90% for £1500 works out to £16.60 per percent gain

 

[LumpyVR]

Well you cant like the re-tiering nonsense we've been all been abused with, but for someone like me who's still running a 1070 bought 7 years ago, desperately needs an upgrade and wants to play Starfield then the 7800XT is not a terrible deal. You just have to ignore the name and tell yourself its a decent performing 7700XT/7800 rather than 7800XT I guess!

Just pondering pre-ordering now or waiting a week or so to see if the Sapphires get closer to RRP (as Gibbo suggested they might?), of course there's always the chance the Starfield promo goes away and you've saved nothing or it ends up more expensive...

 

[GhostDog1981]

As a 3080 owner the 4090 followed by 7900XTX are the most cost effective upgrade options with a 7900XT being the least cost effective, a 7900XT is 29% faster for £700 which means your paying £24 per percentage improvement, a 4080 is 48% faster for £1050 so a £22 per percentage improvement, a 7900XTX is 52% faster for £929 which works out at £17.80 per percent improvement and a 4090 at +90% for £1500 works out to £16.60 per percent gain

Not everyone has £1500 to blow on a gpu Joxeon hence why people have gone midrange and set £700ish as a ceiling- sure they “may” have to upgrade more often but it still is more kinder on cash flow and psychological impact of spending so much on a gpu.

 

[GhostDog1981]

Well you cant like the re-tiering nonsense we've been all been abused with, but for someone like me who's still running a 1070 bought 7 years ago, desperately needs an upgrade and wants to play Starfield then the 7800XT is not a terrible deal. You just have to ignore the name and tell yourself its a decent performing 7700XT/7800 rather than 7800XT I guess!

Just pondering pre-ordering now or waiting a week or so to see if the Sapphires get closer to RRP (as Gibbo suggested they might?), of course there's always the chance the Starfield promo goes away and you've saved nothing or it ends up more expensive...

The sapphire MBA looks tasty. Are OCUK getting them in? Can’t see them on preorder?

 

[LumpyVR]

The sapphire MBA looks tasty. Are OCUK getting them in? Can’t see them on preorder?

Yeah just the Pulse/Pure/Nitro by the look of it at the moment. Assume the MBA would (should!) be RRP as well? Would there be much difference between that and the Pulse though for the sake of £20??

 

[TheRealDeal]

Yea, heaven forbid that people who actually understand what's happening actually call out bad practices, that they hold these companies to account in whatever, admittedly small, way they can.

Yea because thats not been done to death. Pulling them up is fine its the fake out rage from some just for the sake of it. Thats not you i am talking about. If you remember you jumped into this when i was talking to what i am refering too.

 

[GhostDog1981]

Yeah just the Pulse/Pure/Nitro by the look of it at the moment. Assume the MBA would (should!) be RRP as well? Would there be much difference between that and the Pulse though for the sake of £20??

Should be RRP £480ish. IMO MBA looks nicer than the others in an all dark build. Pulse and MBA are the same in terms of cooling and overclock ability.

 

[Joxeon]

Not everyone has £1500 to blow on a gpu Joxeon hence why people have gone midrange and set £700ish as a ceiling- sure they “may” have to upgrade more often but it still is more kinder on cash flow.

Thats true but in terms of gains from a 3080 you're getting far less for your money going for the 7900XT and upgrading again in two years at that price bracket you'll have ended up spending what a 4090 cost anyway for less performance that a 4090 offers today if AMD do another card with +30% for that price.

 

[GhostDog1981]

Thats true but in terms of gains from a 3080 you're getting far less for your money going for the 7900XT and upgrading again in two years at that price bracket you'll have ended up spending what a 4090 cost anyway for less performance that a 4090 offers today if AMD do another card with +30% for that price.

I’m not intending to upgrade again for 4 years as I think it will last me that long judging by 1440p frame rates.

Also DP1.4 only on 4090 so I’d be uneasy about that for future proofing when getting new monitors etc.

4 years is a long time in PC tech so I hope to get something that blows me away for £700 again

 

[ICDP]

As a 3080 owner the 4090 followed by 7900XTX are the most cost effective upgrade options with a 7900XT being the least cost effective, a 7900XT is 29% faster for £700 which means your paying £24 per percentage improvement, a 4080 is 48% faster for £1050 so a £22 per percentage improvement, a 7900XTX is 52% faster for £929 which works out at £17.80 per percent improvement and a 4090 at +90% for £1500 works out to £16.60 per percent gain

As a former 3080 owner who plays at 4K the 7900 XT is about 35% - 40% faster and the 4080 about 50% to 55% faster. In RT the 7900 XT is on average 10% faster than a 3080 apart from in extreme RT. Unless you play games with extreme RT where the 4080 is far faster, but then both need upscaling and compromise to get decent FPS.

 

[LumpyVR]

Should be RRP £480ish. IMO MBA looks nicer than the others in an all dark build. Pulse and MBA are the same in terms of cooling and overclock ability.

Just had a look on Sapphires website, yeah the MBA's are quite nice I think but I don't dislike the Pulse either. But I'm not averse to saving £20 either lol!

 

[Joxeon]

As a former 3080 owner who plays at 4K the 7900 XT is about 35% - 40% faster and the 4080 about 50% to 55% faster. In RT the 7900 XT gives about 3080 performance and is about 20% slower on average than the 4080. Unless you play games with extreme RT where the 4080 is far faster, but then both need upscaling and compromise to get decent FPS.

Even at +40% the 7900XT still offers less value than a 4090 in terms of performance gains than a 4090 does over a 3080

 

[GhostDog1981]

Even at +40% the 7900XT still offers less value than a 4090 in terms of performance gains than a 4090 does over a 3080

See my post- £1500 is still a lot to spend in one go for a worthy uplift- better to buy 2 GPUs for £700 each over 8 years than 1 for £1500 imo to take advantage of new tech display ports etc.

 

[GhostDog1981]

Even at +40% the 7900XT still offers less value than a 4090 in terms of performance gains than a 4090 does over a 3080

It’s the card (7900XT) that folks can’t bring themselves to love….

 

[Aretak]

Should be RRP £480ish. IMO MBA looks nicer than the others in an all dark build. Pulse and MBA are the same in terms of cooling and overclock ability.

The MBA card did pretty poorly in TPU's noise-normalised testing.

The 7800 XT Pulse isn't on there as they didn't review it, but the 7700 XT one is the same cooler as far as I can tell.

 

[Murphy]

Yea because thats not been done to death. Pulling them up is fine its the fake out rage from some just for the sake of it. Thats not you i am talking about. If you remember you jumped into this when i was talking to what i am refering too.

Personally i don't think it can ever be done to death, at least not until both companies make amens or explain themselves (small possibility of the latter and near zero of the latter). For people not to be suckered in with a confidence trick they need to be called out and explained at every opportunity, it maybe flogging a dead horse but I've been known to do that.

I CBA to go back and look if you were calling out faux outrage, it's just not worth the effort and you're probably right that i jumped in so i apologise if that's the case, jumping in is also something I've been known to do.

e: I just want to say that IMO both companies would've probably taken less flak if they just increased prices, yes everyone would've complained about the price increases but at least they wouldn't be seen as being dishonest.

 

[LumpyVR]

The MBA card did pretty poorly in TPU's noise-normalised testing.

The 7800 XT Pulse isn't on there as they didn't review it, but the 7700 XT one is the same cooler as far as I can tell.

That's interesting, doesn't seem to perform great there at all does it. Didn't realise those 3 fan models outperformed the 2 fan models by that much either, always thought it was minimal gains and an excuse to charge more