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AMD asleep as usual giving Nvidia free reign to sell what it wants.
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Any news on 7800 xt?
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Caporegime
How are there 2 Navi 31 SKU's above the 7900XTX which is a full Navi 31?
Soldato
Probably clock speeds. I think there's been some noise about the original Navi 31 stepping having some kind of clock speed power scaling issue. If that's true we might see something akin to e.g. HD 4890 in these.
Not really sure about the 7950 XT (non-XTX) but I'd imagine that would actually fit in somewhere between the 7900 XT and 7900 XTX rather than above it.
Caporegime
I've heard about this, that and apparently there is some sort of bug in the hardware where something is put in the driver to get around it but as a result the performance is reduced, this is apparently why the 7900XTX is under performing by about 20% vs what AMD claimed.
That has apparently been fixed with a new stepping of the hardware.
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Soldato
Yeah, and whatever the exact mechanism happens to be if you were getting a 20% bump you'd better believe they will give it a new product name.
Caporegime
If it ends up 20% faster it will match the RTX 4090.
Caporegime
Another thing, Navi 32 should also be on that new stepping, that might be why its taking so long.
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Soldato
That's an interesting thought. We imagine that a 7800 might perform like a 6900 XT or so, but plus 20% and it's basically eating the 7900 XT's dinner.
how many cpus did nvidia sell recently?
so seems nvidia isnt selling what they want
7800xt likely to come out soonish back to school campain maybe
7800xt likely to come out soonish off to Starfield campaign maybe
Caporegime
Oh... good point, if so they might have to discontinue the 7900XT.
Any leaks on when it'll be released?
What?! Well that would explain the poor gen on gen increase of 7000s over 6000s, but what a tragic deal for current 7900 owners. They get shafted for a hardware bug and lose the 20% they should have had, and can't update via software/drivers. Is this really true?
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No leaks that i have seen about release dates. If it's this year though i would be thinking November time.
Caporegime
Apparently it is, its a flaw in the hardware that was discovered very late, after the announcement.
That's utterly shocking. Not just the ball drop, but the audacity to sell a defective product at these prices knowing they're underforming and there is a fix in the pipeline. That arguably worse than anything Nvidia are doing. I suppose AMD will then price the fixed 7900s (the 7950s) at £1k and £1.5k after the spectacular performance jump? Or suddenly drop the current card prices by 25-50% and shaft the owners.
I really am starting to see why the only card selling is the 4090, even though it's also overpriced.
Unbelievable contempt to customers from both manufacturers.
Not really, they havnt misled consumers merely moved where the 7900xtx sat in terms of performance, rather than making it a competitor for the 4090 they moved it down a tier and priced it accordingly.
Therefore no one bought a card thinking it was something it wasn't.
So if it hit it's original performance target you think it would have been ~£1500?
It might have been, but it started at a similar cost to the 4080 so no point in what aboutery is there
True. Just attempted to speculate on what a 7950XTX might cost. 1.5k to rival the 4090 or replace the 7900XTX and circa 1k.
I don't think they would price it that high but probably would have been around £1200 I reckon with aib partner cards like a strix version being £1500
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