Any news on 7800 xt?

[Angilion]

AMD Navi 32-based Radeon RX 7800/7700 series reportedly targeting September launch​

AMD Navi 32-based Radeon RX 7800/7700 series reportedly targeting September launch - VideoCardz.com

AMD might already showcase Radeon RX 7800/7700 at Gamescom AMD is reportedly targeting a September release for its Navi 32 desktop GPUs. According to the latest video by Moore’s Law is Dead, the GPU manufacturer has completed the development of its Navi 32 GPU and has already released...

videocardz.com

That Hybrid sounds interesting.

The same rumour source that the page you link to uses also stated that the 70CU Navi 32/31 hybrid you refer to will not be launched at the same time, won't be launched any time soon and might never be launched at all. It seems that AMD wants so much for it that no card manufacturer wants anything to do with it. Apparently it's been wholly ready for retail for at several months, hardware and software all done. Allegedly some potential AIBs have had fully functional, fully supported, completely retail-ready cards from AMD for a couple of months now. Not interested.

I think it would sound interesting if it was available to buy and if it was priced reasonably for its performance. Which I am sure will not happen. If it's launched at all, I think it will be a mostly paper launch with no publicity and a handful of cards at a price that will make them interesting only to collectors of rare graphics cards.

 

[humbug]

The same rumour source that the page you link to uses also stated that the 70CU Navi 32/31 hybrid you refer to will not be launched at the same time, won't be launched any time soon and might never be launched at all. It seems that AMD wants so much for it that no card manufacturer wants anything to do with it. Apparently it's been wholly ready for retail for at several months, hardware and software all done. Allegedly some potential AIBs have had fully functional, fully supported, completely retail-ready cards from AMD for a couple of months now. Not interested.

I think it would sound interesting if it was available to buy and if it was priced reasonably for its performance. Which I am sure will not happen. If it's launched at all, I think it will be a mostly paper launch with no publicity and a handful of cards at a price that will make them interesting only to collectors of rare graphics cards.

It seems that AMD wants so much for it that no card manufacturer wants anything to do with it. Apparently it's been wholly ready for retail for at several months, hardware and software all done. Allegedly some potential AIBs have had fully functional, fully supported, completely retail-ready cards from AMD for a couple of months now. Not interested.

I can see that being true, but citation needed.

 

[Angilion]

I can see that being true, but citation needed.

The same rumour source that MyBrainz referred to when they said it (the 70CU Navi 32/21 hybrid card) looked interesting, which was the post I was replying to. They referenced videocardz, but the actual source (credited by videocardz in the article) was MLID. That was one of the rumour and speculation videos I watched yesterday (or the day before, I forget).

So no citation, really, unless you count a second-hand (or third-hand, if you look at the videocardz article) retelling from alleged sources who allegedly work for the relevant companies. Which is why I've been using the word "alleged" a lot. It's all second-hand hearsay mixed with speculation. But, like you, I can see it being true. RDNA3 has been finished for a while now and the market for it at current pricing is very limited. I can certainly see AIBs saying "not interested" to it at current pricing, considering the very low volume of sales (and probably not very large margins for the AIBs) not worth the manufacturing. Going by current market practices, AMD would probably call it a 7900 and charge top tier pricing for it. It would be the third model down. 7900XTX, 7900XT...and the third model down is 7900. Which is top tier, right? It's a 7900!

But it is second-hand rumours from undisclosed alleged sources. I know that the second-hand market for graphics cards currently runs at 90+% of brand new when it comes to pricing, but I don't think that applies to rumours

 

[MichaelAwkward]

Is it worth holding on for these new cards when I could get a RX 6700XT or RTX 3070 for £290-300 to upgrade my Vega 56? I'm guessing they'll launch at silly prices anyway.

 

[nomadd]

Is it worth holding on for these new cards when I could get a RX 6700XT or RTX 3070 for £290-300 to upgrade my Vega 56? I'm guessing they'll launch at silly prices anyway.

If the 4060 and 7600 are anything to go by, then nope.

 

[MichaelAwkward]

If the 4060 and 7600 are anything to go by, then nope.

Bit the bullet and ordered a RX 6700XT from OcUK - with the Starfield voucher as a sweetener. Should be a good upgrade from the Vega 56 for £205~ (after selling the old GPU and the cost of the game), and a nice match to my Ryzen 3600 and 32GB DDR4.

Made more sense than buying a used one for £290~ and then buying the game anyway.

 

[gjbf1]

Bit the bullet and ordered a RX 6700XT from OcUK - with the Starfield voucher as a sweetener. Should be a good upgrade from the Vega 56 for £205~ (after selling the old GPU and the cost of the game), and a nice match to my Ryzen 3600 and 32GB DDR4.

Made more sense than buying a used one for £290~ and then buying the game anyway.

Enjoy!

 

[MichaelAwkward]

Although just realised the 6750XT is only £4 more… sent a message to ask if I can change my order.

 

[gjbf1]

Although just realised the 6750XT is only £4 more… sent a message to ask if I can change my order.

They will. They're pretty good.

 

[JediFragger]

Both cracking cards, enjoy whichever you get!

 

[Angilion]

I'm in a similar position, just with a 5700X CPU and a 1070Ti graphics card. Not greatly different.

I've looked at 6700XT/6750XT a number of times. Then I look at 6800. Then 6950XT. Then I grub about for any smidgeons of information and rumours about the missing midrange 7000 series graphics cards, whatever they'll be called. Maybe the same raster as a 6800XT but quite a bit better ray tracing. But how much will they be sold for? That's the key question. Along with what their performance will actually be, but that has better information behind it. Then I look at the second hand market to see if prices are lower than new by enough to offset the lack of warranty and the existing use (the answer is always no and has been for ages now).

And I carry on not deciding. I've been not deciding for at least a year now.

 

[SpudMaster]

I'm in a similar position, just with a 5700X CPU and a 1070Ti graphics card. Not greatly different.

I've looked at 6700XT/6750XT a number of times. Then I look at 6800. Then 6950XT. Then I grub about for any smidgeons of information and rumours about the missing midrange 7000 series graphics cards, whatever they'll be called. Maybe the same raster as a 6800XT but quite a bit better ray tracing. But how much will they be sold for? That's the key question. Along with what their performance will actually be, but that has better information behind it. Then I look at the second hand market to see if prices are lower than new by enough to offset the lack of warranty and the existing use (the answer is always no and has been for ages now).

And I carry on not deciding. I've been not deciding for at least a year now.

story of my life

 

[Brackish]

And then you get the frenzied and frantic time of reading reviews, watching reviews, breakdowns and extra testing only to fumble with the buy button at checkout lol.

 

[Klo]

I'm in a similar position, just with a 5700X CPU and a 1070Ti graphics card. Not greatly different.

I've looked at 6700XT/6750XT a number of times. Then I look at 6800. Then 6950XT. Then I grub about for any smidgeons of information and rumours about the missing midrange 7000 series graphics cards, whatever they'll be called. Maybe the same raster as a 6800XT but quite a bit better ray tracing. But how much will they be sold for? That's the key question. Along with what their performance will actually be, but that has better information behind it. Then I look at the second hand market to see if prices are lower than new by enough to offset the lack of warranty and the existing use (the answer is always no and has been for ages now).

And I carry on not deciding. I've been not deciding for at least a year now.

Second hand prices are annoyingly high. For example people are buying 6700xts for between 250 and 300, which really isn't that much less than a 6700xt brand new. I'd thought it would be closer to £200 by now.

 

[gjbf1]

And then you get the frenzied and frantic time of reading reviews, watching reviews, breakdowns and extra testing only to fumble with the buy button at checkout lol.

Exactly. Been doing that for a couple of months.

 

[Nutty667]

AMD Navi 32 Desktop GPUs Set for September Release​

AMD Navi 32 Desktop GPUs Set for September Release

Reports indicate a September 2023 launch for AMD's Navi 32 desktop GPUs. The GPU's development is completed, and its drivers are already functional....

www.guru3d.com

 

[Angilion]

AMD Navi 32 Desktop GPUs Set for September Release​

AMD Navi 32 Desktop GPUs Set for September Release

Reports indicate a September 2023 launch for AMD's Navi 32 desktop GPUs. The GPU's development is completed, and its drivers are already functional....

www.guru3d.com

Same source as before - MLID. It's being regurgitated by various sites, but it's the same single source. The headline on the guru3d article is misleading. Nothing is set. The original source (MLID) was honest about that. It's a rumour. Even if MLID's alleged source allegedly in AMD is legit and is in a position to know AMD's plans, the alleged quote from the alleged source was very clear about nothing being set, explicitly stating that plans had already changed several times this year and could change again.

 

[MichaelAwkward]

I'm in a similar position, just with a 5700X CPU and a 1070Ti graphics card. Not greatly different.

I've looked at 6700XT/6750XT a number of times. Then I look at 6800. Then 6950XT. Then I grub about for any smidgeons of information and rumours about the missing midrange 7000 series graphics cards, whatever they'll be called. Maybe the same raster as a 6800XT but quite a bit better ray tracing. But how much will they be sold for? That's the key question. Along with what their performance will actually be, but that has better information behind it. Then I look at the second hand market to see if prices are lower than new by enough to offset the lack of warranty and the existing use (the answer is always no and has been for ages now).

And I carry on not deciding. I've been not deciding for at least a year now.

I ended up compiling a spreadsheet of benchmarking data for all the cards and then weighted it by their current used prices which led me to the 6700XT/6750XT and 3070 being the best value currently, especially for 1440p performance. HU came to the same conclusion recently.

Then I saw the Starfield offer on a new card, which I was planning to buy anyway, so it was a non-brainer. I did end up paying a bit extra for the Sapphire over Powercolour, but my current card is a Pulse model and I've had no issues at all with it, and happy to get 3 years warranty instead of 2 for an extra £30.

And yes, OcUK did swap the order for me this morning.

 

[gjbf1]

I ended up compiling a spreadsheet of benchmarking data for all the cards and then weighted it by their current used prices which led me to the 6700XT/6750XT and 3070 being the best value currently, especially for 1440p performance. HU came to the same conclusion recently.

Then I saw the Starfield offer on a new card, which I was planning to buy anyway, so it was a non-brainer. I did end up paying a bit extra for the Sapphire over Powercolour, but my current card is a Pulse model and I've had no issues at all with it, and happy to get 3 years warranty instead of 2 for an extra £30.

And yes, OcUK did swap the order for me this morning.

Good to hear. Congrats.

 

[Grim5]

7700xt timespy scores 15.5k points
7800xt timespy scores 18.9k points

6800xt in timespy scores 17.3k points
6700xt scores 11.7k points

So 7700xt is about 30% faster than 6700xt and 7800xt is 10% faster than 6800xt

If you are also interested in the 6750xt, this gpu scores 13.9k in Timespy, so the 7700xt is 11% faster than the 6750xt


And if you wish to compare to the 7900xtx, then the 7800xt has 65% of the performance than the 7900xtx has and the 7700xt has 52% of the performance from the 7900xtx. So the 7900 series of GPUs are significantly faster than the 7800/7700 series

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AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT review (Page 26)

Got cash to burn? It has been a long wait, but AMD has now released it's RDNA2 based products. Yes, Big Navi has been seated on the Radeon RX 6800, 6800 XT, and 6900 XT. In this article, we'll revie...

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Alleged AMD RX 7700 and RX 7800 GPU Performance Leaked

Purported performance details of AMD's RDNA 3-based performance mainstream GPUs emerge.

www.tomshardware.com