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Any news on 7800 xt?
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3080 won’t ever happen again. Nvidia won’t be making that mistake.
I wouldn’t be so sure since if Nvidia wants to retain their new pricing structure for next gen then the performance gains will have to be substantial across all tiers.
Or when the next consoles launch and RDNA5/6 is rumoured to be doing very well (a large dose Sony & Microsoft R&D money always helps), then Nvidia may feel that they have to offer good value for a change?
I’m not sure that will catch on. Buy an Nvidia 4060 get a free golden shower
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Maybe by then Nvidia would have made it BIG in AI and almost don’t care about the PC Gaming market anymore?
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Already true....
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Have you decided what to get? XTX prices have started to become tempting… but I already have a XT (got for a good price and have Zero regrets)
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Too rich for me, looking at RX 7700 or 7800.
Leak Suggests Radeon RX 7800 XT & RX 7700 XT GPUs Scheduled for September Launch
As we get closer to a possible late summer/early autumn release window for mid-range AMD Radeon RX 7000-series gaming graphics cards, more leaks have emerged from sources in Asia. Benchlife believes that "in addition to Radeon RX 7900 GRE, AMD and its AIB partners are also preparing two Navi 32...
So humbug's estimate would be wrong then, he had the 7700 ahead of the 6800 and had the 7800 ahead of the 6900
Its interesting that AMD is also coming out with a 7900 (not XT or XTX, just a 7900) and for some reason it's only coming out in China
Its interesting that AMD is also coming out with a 7900 (not XT or XTX, just a 7900) and for some reason it's only coming out in China
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Good thing too, better performance and you probably picked it up for the same price as the 7800 msrp
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Leak Suggests Radeon RX 7800 XT & RX 7700 XT GPUs Scheduled for September Launch
As we get closer to a possible late summer/early autumn release window for mid-range AMD Radeon RX 7000-series gaming graphics cards, more leaks have emerged from sources in Asia. Benchlife believes that "in addition to Radeon RX 7900 GRE, AMD and its AIB partners are also preparing two Navi 32...www.techpowerup.com
Well, it says there N32 with 48 CU is 5% faster than the 6700XT which has 40 CPU's, so 20% more CU's on N32 for 5%, bare in mind also that the RX 7600 with the same number of CU's is 10% faster than the RX 6600XT.
Add to that if the lower one is 48 CU is then the one marked RX 7700 must be the 54 CU one people are talking about, while the 7800 also on that chart is 60 CU, 54 CU vs 60 CU and the 60 CU one according to that chart is 15% faster, for 11% more CU's?
See how easy it is to completely destroy a #### slide when you engage brain?
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Looks like the only thing 7800 / Navi32 will bring is AV1, better RT and lower power consumption - but due to chiplets not as much as it could have been.
Price? Well AMD do love to overcharge at launch, get no few sales, then reduce their prices. Maybe they'll handle things differently this time.
The most optimistic price is 7600 vs 6650 XT which did see a reduction. But then the launch price of 6650 XT ($399) was crazy, and 7600's $269 was far saner, in theory that was a 2/3 of the overpriced 6650XT's price.
Guess if Navi 32 had been able to reach 6900 or 6950XT performance, then some thing similar might be $999 vs $650 but that's pretty poor as the 6900XT was always overpriced. Versus the 6800 XT, then 2/3 would be $450 which would be nice. TPU's placeholders have 12GB Navi 32 7700 XT @ $529 which is crazy, but then the 6750 XT's launch price was a crazy $550.
The 7800 XT at max $550 and 7700 at max $400 is far more reasonable, but hey it's 2023 and AMD are quite keen to joining Nvidia in with destroying the PC dGPU market!
Price? Well AMD do love to overcharge at launch, get no few sales, then reduce their prices. Maybe they'll handle things differently this time.
The most optimistic price is 7600 vs 6650 XT which did see a reduction. But then the launch price of 6650 XT ($399) was crazy, and 7600's $269 was far saner, in theory that was a 2/3 of the overpriced 6650XT's price.
Guess if Navi 32 had been able to reach 6900 or 6950XT performance, then some thing similar might be $999 vs $650 but that's pretty poor as the 6900XT was always overpriced. Versus the 6800 XT, then 2/3 would be $450 which would be nice. TPU's placeholders have 12GB Navi 32 7700 XT @ $529 which is crazy, but then the 6750 XT's launch price was a crazy $550.
The 7800 XT at max $550 and 7700 at max $400 is far more reasonable, but hey it's 2023 and AMD are quite keen to joining Nvidia in with destroying the PC dGPU market!
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Using this TPU 1440P chart as a base the RX 7600 is in specification terms identical to the RX 6650XT
Its also only slightly faster than the RX 6650XT, so lets go with 1:1 CU.
The RX 6700XT with 40 CU's stands at 121%, add the 4 CU's (+20%) 121 + 20% = 145 so it stands at 145% on that chart, that puts it about equal to the RX 6800 at 148%.
Now we are on the same architecture so we have to take scaling in to account, 0.8, the RX 7800 with 60 CU's is 60 / 48 = 1.25 (+25%) * 0.8 = +20% so 145% + 20% = 174%, that puts it equal to the 4070 and 6800XT at 172% and 171%
Lets qualify all that ^^^ The 7900XT, also on that chart has 84 CU's, 84 / 60 = 1.4 (+40%) * 0.8 = 32 (+32%) RX 7800 at 174% + 32% = 229% its marked as 226% on that chart. wow i got close...
Its a little less that my initial calc, about 5% off, but higher than that latest chart, which was so obviously wrong.
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Its also only slightly faster than the RX 6650XT, so lets go with 1:1 CU.
The RX 6700XT with 40 CU's stands at 121%, add the 4 CU's (+20%) 121 + 20% = 145 so it stands at 145% on that chart, that puts it about equal to the RX 6800 at 148%.
Now we are on the same architecture so we have to take scaling in to account, 0.8, the RX 7800 with 60 CU's is 60 / 48 = 1.25 (+25%) * 0.8 = +20% so 145% + 20% = 174%, that puts it equal to the 4070 and 6800XT at 172% and 171%
Lets qualify all that ^^^ The 7900XT, also on that chart has 84 CU's, 84 / 60 = 1.4 (+40%) * 0.8 = 32 (+32%) RX 7800 at 174% + 32% = 229% its marked as 226% on that chart. wow i got close...
Its a little less that my initial calc, about 5% off, but higher than that latest chart, which was so obviously wrong.
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Leak Suggests Radeon RX 7800 XT & RX 7700 XT GPUs Scheduled for September Launch
As we get closer to a possible late summer/early autumn release window for mid-range AMD Radeon RX 7000-series gaming graphics cards, more leaks have emerged from sources in Asia. Benchlife believes that "in addition to Radeon RX 7900 GRE, AMD and its AIB partners are also preparing two Navi 32...
It's so weird, isn't new gen same tier supposed to trounce previous same gen same tier by at least 1 gen.
This basically looks like you could overclock last gen to match lol.
The rx 480/580 were like that
Well... kinda defeats the point of new gen then.
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Depends on price, the RTX 4060 at £300 is crap, at £200 tho....