Any news on 7800 xt?

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Edit: @CAT-THE-FIFTH honestly i was writing this as you posted that ^^^ i didn't ninja you

BTW the 7900 GRE is exactly the same configuration as the 6950XT, but with lower clocks, 2245Mhz vs 2310Mhz.

The 6950XT is 14% faster than the 6800XT. at the same clocks the 7900GRE should be slightly faster than the 6950XT, at higher clocks faster again.

TPU have it 20% faster than the 6800XT, to me, with proper clocks that sounds about right, when that card gets to the Anglo-Saxon world why would it be clocked lower than RDNA2? so far nothing RDNA3 is.
Its a china thing.

 

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Edit: @CAT-THE-FIFTH honestly i was writing this as you posted that ^^^ i didn't ninja you

BTW the 7900 GRE is exactly the same configuration as the 6950XT, but with lower clocks, 2245Mhz vs 2310Mhz.

The 6950XT is 14% faster than the 6800XT. at the same clocks the 7900GRE should be slightly faster than the 6950XT, at higher clocks faster again.

TPU have it 20% faster than the 6800XT, to me, with proper clocks that sounds about right, when that card gets to the Anglo-Saxon world why would it be clocked lower than RDNA2? so far nothing RDNA3 is.
Its a china thing.

Do you see how with a bit of thinking and detective work how easy it is to get to a logical conclusion?

That's what's missing from tech journalism these days, entirely, now they are Youtube savi, but thick beyond that, and i hate it, i hate video's like the one posted below, and the people fronting them.

I've seen AMDs own charts compering the 7900 GRE to the 4070 and those would have been cherry picked ?

AMD Are Stupid!

AMD Are Stupid! with the launch of the rx 7900 gre it just proves how bad rdna 3 is and that navi 3 x has had no meaning full increase in performance or ipc ...

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7700 ? Can you show it's benchmarks and pricing where it's officially confirmed?

 

[uscool]

Do you see how with a bit of thinking and detective work how easy it is to get to a logical conclusion?

That's what's missing from tech journalism these days, entirely, now they are Youtube savi, but thick beyond that, and i hate it, i hate video's like the one posted below, and the people fronting them.

When are we expecting the 7700/7800 ?

 

[humbug]

Anywho.... +20% for the same money ($649) not great, but its better than $799 for the alternative.

I like the 7700, £430 for something that's near the 4070, delicious.

When are we expecting the 7700/7800 ?

Not before Starfield in September, i hope its not just the 7900 that AMD will launch on that day, but all of them, i think they will, its been 10 months, they can't drag this out a day longer and IMO they will want to capitalise on Starfield for the whole range.

 

[sx_turbo]

When are we expecting the 7700/7800 ?

Rumors say September, but I'm failing to see the point in these new cards over the existing range. They aren't really improving performance from what's been released so far, the 7800 is comparable to 6800xt apparently.

This really is a generation to skip.

They also seem to be releasing a 7900gre, which seems to also have the same performance as the 6800xt so it's a bit bizarre at the minute.

There doesn't appear to be much sense coming from amd , so it's another botched launch from AMD. They had an opportunity to pick up from Nvidia making a mess and alienating their customers and they've basically squandered it.

They aren't terrible cards, but probably should be called rDNA 2.5 rather than 3 as it's essentially a pointless upgrade unless you've got a really old card already like an rx580 or something.

Ray tracing will be slightly improved but not enough to warrant choosing over Nvidia. AMD should be keenly pricing the GPU 's though if rumors are to be believed so there is still chance they might be worth it for select buyers.

 

[humbug]

I have skipped the last gen, i have an RTX 2070S, i need an upgrade and the RX 7700 looks like its the one.

 

[JediFragger]

7700XT might be the standout card of this gen for AMD, *if* they price it right w/12GB vRam.

 

[uscool]

Anywho.... +20% for the same money ($649) not great, but its better than $799 for the alternative.

I like the 7700, £430 for something that's near the 4070, delicious.



Not before Starfield in September, i hope its not just the 7900 that AMD will launch on that day, but all of them, i think they will, its been 10 months, they can't drag this out a day longer and IMO they will want to capitalise on Starfield for the whole range.

You really expecting or know that the 7700 will be £430 near 4070 performance ? , cheapest I see 4070 currently £559.99

So you expecting AMD to be like £130 less , with the current trend I don't think AMD being that aggressive been here few times now when the door seems open .

 

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7700XT might be the standout card of this gen for AMD, *if* they price it right w/12GB vRam.

It manages to make the 4060Ti, 4060Ti 16GB and 4070, all three of them look daft at the same time, at $450 its aggressive.

 

[humbug]

You really expecting or know that the 7700 will be £430 near 4070 performance ? , cheapest I see 4070 currently £559.99

So you expecting AMD to be like £130 less , with the current trend I don't think AMD being that agreessive been here few times now when the door seems open .

TPU have it 5% faster than the 6800 and 5% slower than the 4070, looks about right to me, if it isn't $450, if its $500 then the 7800 isn't $550, its $620 and the 7900 $730.... oh wait no the 7900XT occupies that spot.

3 GPU's in a $300 rage.

 

[GhostDog1981]

Rumors say September, but I'm failing to see the point in these new cards over the existing range. They aren't really improving performance from what's been released so far, the 7800 is comparable to 6800xt apparently.

This really is a generation to skip.

They also seem to be releasing a 7900gre, which seems to also have the same performance as the 6800xt so it's a bit bizarre at the minute.

There doesn't appear to be much sense coming from amd , so it's another botched launch from AMD. They had an opportunity to pick up from Nvidia making a mess and alienating their customers and they've basically squandered it.

They aren't terrible cards, but probably should be called rDNA 2.5 rather than 3 as it's essentially a pointless upgrade unless you've got a really old card already like an rx580 or something.

Ray tracing will be slightly improved but not enough to warrant choosing over Nvidia. AMD should be keenly pricing the GPU 's thought if rumors are to be believed so there is still chance they might be worth it for select buyers.

Well there is point in releasing these cards for power efficiency and longer driver support and AV1 encode etc. Also existing stock is drying up.

 

[sx_turbo]

TPU have it 5% faster than the 6800 and 5% slower than the 4070, looks about right to me, if it isn't $450, if its $500 then the 7800 isn't $550, its $620 and the 7900 $730.... oh wait no the 7900XT occupies that spot.

3 GPU's in a $300 rage.

If the 7800 is only as fast as the 6800xt then Im not sure the 7700 will be within 5% of 7800, the 7700 is likely to be 6800 performance, I don't think there will be an xt range this time.

 

[sx_turbo]

Well there is point in releasing these cards for power efficiency and longer driver support and AV1 encode etc. Also existing stock is drying up.

As I said these cards are really for those with older cards are specific requirements for av1.

The power efficiency isn't that much improved

 

[humbug]

If the 7800 is only as fast as the 6800xt then Im not sure the 7700 will be within 5% of 7800, the 7700 is likely to be 6800 performance, I don't think there will be an xt range this time.

Maybe.

Lets just go on CU count.

RX 6750XT: 40 CU's @ 2600Mhz
RX 7700: 48 CU's @ 2600Mhz (+20%)

They have the 4070 28% faster than the 6750XT.

It still looks about right to me.

The difference between the 6800 and 7800 is as follows
6800: 60 CU's @ 2105Mhz
7800: 60 CU's @ 2800Mhz (+33%)

That clock speed difference is probably why TPU have it a little ahead of the 6800XT

So i think the 4070 will be about 10% faster, for $130 more, and i think Nvidia will be happy with that, such is their mentality now, it has RTX and DLSS don't you know. that's added value and a lot of it.

 

[GhostDog1981]

Maybe.

Lets just go on CU count.

RX 6750XT: 40 CU's @ 2600Mhz
RX 7700: 48 CU's @ 2600Mhz (+20%)

They have the 4070 28% faster than the 6750XT.

It still looks about right to me.

The difference between the 6800 and 7800 is as follows
6800: 60 CU's @ 2105Mhz
7800: 60 CU's @ 2800Mhz (+33%)

That clock speed difference is probably why TPU have it a little ahead of the 6800XT

So i think the 4070 will be about 5-10% faster, for $130 more, and i think Nvidia will be happy with that, such is their mentality now, it has RTX and DLSS don't you know. that's added value and a lot of it.

Can I ask you as a software dev, do you think the AMD 7900 cards will age better due to vram and unreal 5 optimisation?

 

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Can I ask you as a software dev, do you think the AMD 7900 cards will age better due to vram and unreal 5 optimisation?

I'm not a software dev, that to me sounds like programming and i don't do that, but i know UE5 well enough to confirm that as a resounding yes, 12GB is the upcoming kicker in the teeth and sooner than we would like, 16GB really is what you want now for 1440P, and that's where it should settle for the next few years.

 

[GhostDog1981]

I'm not a software dev, that to me sounds like programming and i don't do that, but i know UE5 well enough to confirm that as a resounding yes, 12GB is the upcoming kicker in the teeth and sooner than we would like, 16GB really is what you want now for 1440P, and that's where it should settle for the next few years.

I suppose 20gb might be useful for texture packs etc?

 

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I suppose 20gb might be useful for texture packs etc?

Right exactly....

 

[humbug]

Put simply game developers are sick to the back teeth of using 1K textures in games that we should be running at 2.5K if not 4K, 12GB should be the minimum for lower mid range cards and 16GB mainstream with 20+ at the higher end. AMD who have partnered with Epic Games agree, and its not just Epic Games who are pushing this, most are now, because they are all not willing to work with in last gen console constraints, no amount of Nvidia cheeping out on VRam will stop them.

Our game stutters on your GPU? that's your problem, you bought the wrong card, what possed you to buy that junk? You wouldn't buy a Lambo with a lawnmower engine, would you?

And i agree.

 

[GhostDog1981]

Put simply game developers are sick to the back teeth of using 1K textures in games that we should be running at 2.5K if not 4K, 12GB should be the minimum for lower mid range cards and 16GB mainstream with 20+ at the higher end. AMD who have partnered with Epic Games agree, and its not just Epic Games who are pushing this, most are now, because they are all not willing to work with in last gen console constraints, no amount of Nvidia cheeping out on VRam will stop them.

Our game stutters on your GPU? that's your problem, you bought the wrong card, what possed you to buy that junk? You wouldn't buy a Lambo with a lawnmower engine, would you?

And i agree.

Will Nvidia start throwing their toys out of the pram so to speak soon?