Any religious people watch the Wonders of Life last night?

And atheists should realise, speaking up about something is not judging. If you saw a woman being raped in the street would you walk on by and say "well I don't want to be judgmental, and it's none of my business anyway". Of course you wouldn't.

Abortion is an abomination in the sight of God.

How is it possible mass genocide can be committed and no one so much as batters an eyelid. Shameful.
 
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An unborn baby at 20 weeks is capable of feeling pain. Have you not seen the videos of abortion, whereby the baby does everything to get away from the item that abortionists use to crush the babies skull?

In fact, babies at 20 weeks feel pain more intensely than adults. This is a “uniquely vulnerable time, since the pain system is fully established, yet the higher level pain-modifying system has barely begun to develop,” according to Dr. Ranalli.

Fetal development is already quite advanced at 20 weeks gestation:
  • The skeleton is complete and reflexes are present at 42 days.
  • Electrical brain wave patterns can be recorded at 43 days. This is usually ample evidence that “thinking” is taking place in the brain.
  • The fetus has the appearance of a miniature baby, with complete fingers, toes and ears at 49 days.
  • All organs are functioning—stomach, liver, kidney, brain—and all systems are intact at 56 days.
  • By 20 weeks, the unborn child has hair and working vocal cords, sucks her thumb, grasps with her hands and kicks. She measures 12 inches.

Three main methods are used to kill the unborn baby. They are as follows:

  • Partial-birth abortion (D&X): The unborn baby is delivered feet first, except for the head, which is punctured at the base of the skull with a sharp object. The brain is then suctioned out, killing the child. (This method was outlawed in the United States in 2007.)
  • Dilation and Evacuation (D&E): Sharp-edged instruments are used to grasp, twist and tear the baby’s body into pieces, which are then removed from the womb.
  • Saline abortion: Salt water is injected into the womb through the mother’s abdomen. The unborn baby swallows this fluid, is poisoned and dies in a process that sometimes takes 24 hours. The toxic saline solution causes severe burns over the unborn child’s entire body.

And you want to tell me this is not immoral and the baby doesn't suffer. And in regards to your ability to suffer, what about those who can't feel pain? Are they less of a human being and therefore should be killed?



That's truly horrific
 
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In this country at least, it's illegal to carry out an abortion post 24 weeks except where it is necessary to prevent the death/serious injury to the mother or where the child would be deformed/handicapped.

That's truly horrific

And yeah, got to agree there - not exactly family friendly!

Abortion is an abomination in the sight of God.

Did he pop down and tell you this? Or do you just have the audacity to presume to know exactly what he's thinking?

If it's such an abomination, why did he give us the ability to do so?

How is it possible mass genocide can be committed and no one as much batters an eyelid. Shameful.

You mean like Herod's massacre of children?
How about the slaughtering of innocents during the crusades?
What about the thousands of innocent woman burned/drowned/etc. as witches in the name of christianity?
There's always the Deir Yassin massacre in 1948.
and of course you've got the constant barrage of islamic bombings, 7/7, 11/9, etc. etc.

All in the name of religion.

Of course, if the bible is to believed (which according to you it is), you've got the biggest one of all: the flood, where virtually the entire planet is wiped out.

If your god is so fantastic, why does he take such pleasure in causing so much misery and pain? Seems more like a disturbed child playing with a magnifying glass and an anthill to me :rolleyes:
 
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Shrimp are called an abomination 4 times more than homosexuals in the bible, do you think shrimp are an abomination?

Just looked that up.. That's amazing, cheers! It seems pretty straightforward to me but no doubt Castiel will be along shortly to correct us. :p

Apparently anything living in the water that doesn't have fins and scales is an abomination, so it would apply to loads of stuff.
 
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Shrimp are called an abomination 4 times more than homosexuals in the bible, do you think shrimp are an abomination?

Just looked that up.. That's amazing, cheers! It seems pretty straightforward to me but no doubt Castiel will be along shortly to correct us. :p

I can tell you his response now if you like. The stuff about prohibited food is in the Old Testament which Christians don't follow blah blah blah
 
I can tell you his response now if you like. The stuff about prohibited food is in the Old Testament which Christians don't follow blah blah blah

You'd think they'd cut out all the irrelevant parts.. It's not like the parts of it they do follow make a particularly easy or enjoyable read.
 
Dinosaurs have no mention in the bible as the people own wrote it didn't know they had existent. If god had existed he/she/it might have mentioned it in the footnotes.

The planet existed long, long before scared/power hungry people came up with some random beliefs. I mean seriously you are talking millions of years where we (modern humans) only make up a minute percentage of its occupancy.

I genuinely worry when people try and use religion, specifically organised religions, as a means of living morally. I would suggest people should be capable of that without been threatened damnation.
 
So what happens if a woman conceives and the embryo develops within the fallopian tube, which would probably kill both mother and child. Is abortion to save the mothers life an "Abomination" then?

Slight odd that the book you keep selectively quoting from appears to call abortion an abomination yet condones rape.

Deuteronomy 22:28-29 sanctions raping female virgins.

Suppose you were a man who lusted after a certain female virgin who was not romantically interested in you. All you had to do, if you were an Israelite, was rape her, pay her father some money, and then marry her. After that, you could rape her almost every night because she would be your wife.

[28] If a man meets a virgin who is not betrothed, and seizes her and lies with her, and they are found,

[29] then the man who lay with her shall give to the father of the young woman fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife, because he has violated her; he may not put her away all his days.

We can all quote texts from the Bilble, even easier with the help of modern technology. The problem is that the origin of the Bible can be summed-up as follows: "A translation of a translation of an interpretation of an oral tradition" - and therefore, a book with no credibility.
 
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And atheists should realise, speaking up about something is not judging. If you saw a woman being raped in the street would you walk on by and say "well I don't want to be judgmental, and it's none of my business anyway". Of course you wouldn't.

Abortion is an abomination in the sight of God.

How is it possible mass genocide can be committed and no one so much as batters an eyelid. Shameful.

Abortion is a difficult issue, as either way harm is going to be caused to either the child or mother via either health or quality of life issues. But to look at it purely from a sanctity of life perspective sure the creator could have designed a method of reproduction that did not waste so many potential lives.

Also if you take the bible literally, God doesn't have to many issue with infanticide or genocide whether encouraging his followers sush as in:
"15:3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass"

Or getting his metaphysical hands dirty and carrying it out himself in:
"12:29 And it came to pass, that at midnight the LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon; and all the firstborn of cattle."
 
So do you choose who you're attracted to?
I am naturally attracted to a woman, my desires for the woman is real, but it is my choice to marry a woman and have relations with her.
That being said, you appear to "believe that all life was caused by God, so believing you choose your sexuality can't be much of a stretch.
Yes i believe the precursor to life is God. I was born a male, that is my sex. I would choose to only marry one woman.
 
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