Anyone else just unenthused about gaming and hardware?

Liquiduk · 16 Jul 2017 at 15:51

Been pretty uninterested in tech for a few years now. Just as well this forum has plenty other rabbit holes to keep me entertained

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humbug · 16 Jul 2017 at 16:00

Cooper said:
Are we talking about Intel or Nvidia?

Could be both, i guess

humbug · 16 Jul 2017 at 16:02

We need AMD to do to nVidia what they just did to Intel, i doubt thats going to happen given what we 'apparently' know about Vega.

Unless AMD are sandbagging.

V F · 16 Jul 2017 at 16:12

humbug said:
We need AMD to do to nVidia what they just did to Intel, i doubt thats going to happen given what we 'apparently' know about Vega.

Unless AMD are sandbagging.

What would that achieve?

humbug · 16 Jul 2017 at 16:29

V F said:
What would that achieve?

As i said i don't think AMD can challenge nVidia but to answer your question; the purpose of Sandbagging would be to catch nVidia off guard, some people claim AMD was Sandbagging with Zen, others in this forum, very recently, have argued Intel have been caught off guard.

subbytna · 16 Jul 2017 at 16:55

Fired up the original MOHAA from 2002

170 FPS lol

Anyone remember the old clans? Mad as Badgers? SD? Loki?

ExoMale · 16 Jul 2017 at 17:33

I'm the same as OP, hence why I have had come and gone with computers and no matter how much I could do with selling my X1S till I get paid I just have brung myself to doing so, got offered silly money from people when I did try few months ago, so just given up at the moment, I have gta5, horizon 3, sniper GW3 and halo 5(had more but sold them due to lack of play and needing the money), got
My x1 for horizon and got back to enjoying GTA 5 with all the new things added, I got halo because I like swat mode on them and missus is halo fan, sniper was a week ago purchase and is good....

if I sell my console I will get a gaming computer to play horizon 3, however I am after a PS3 & PS4 for PS only games, the trouble is finding a computer that can play the games I do own, I started to get in to mad max a bit, but not bothered now, I do prefer RB6S on pc than console as console felt little strange with the pad and probably would play it again, I have gotten in to the division on Xbox as much as I did on pc, but owning pc version I'd probably carry it on, couldn't get in to FO4 on console like I did on pc, mean i had to start again on console and then eventually on pc due to game issue, but felt more interested in pc version.

I want to get back to anno 2205 and also get back in to star craft 2, so I will always need a pc/laptop capable, but again the demand for GTA5 on pc and similar games puts me off which is why I will always have a console and won't ever spend too much on a gaming computer, not to mention with my new job I don't have enough time as a used to or the mood(tiring) for much gaming or anything else really.

It depends on the individual really, some will have high spec systems for other stuff that's not gaming and others will have them for all of it and also how fancy they want the game etc to run, I don't care so much about max settings so long I don't have to run on low or lower than normal res at least.

If I sell my x1 I won't be replacing it with the X, I don't need that much console power nor can benefit properly from it as I don't care for 4K right now or VR. I'd get a PS4 pro if I see any more pop up for £200 on private sales like I saw the other day and for that reason only.

K1LaW8tt5 · 16 Jul 2017 at 17:46

This isn't the first thread of this kind to appear lately. PC gaming is losing appeal. What game are we meant to get excited for?
BF1 I avoided, I still play BF4. GTA V I played to death before it even released on PC. Bought it on PC but never really got into it again.
PUBG looks ok, but its not as if that game is a graphical masterpiece that will require new hardware. Maybe when its finished.

humbug · 16 Jul 2017 at 17:47

I seem to be playing things like Insurgency, Day of infamy, Borderlands 2 / Pre-sequel.... with friends, a lot lately, (at least while we wait for Star citizen 3.0)

On a GTX 1070, well, Boarderlands i'm getting 80 to 100 FPS maxed out IQ at 4K DSR, Insurgency, Day of infamy; those are source engine, they look nice while being incredibly well optimised... maxed out IQ 150 FPS solid @ 4K DSR... ridiculous. :O

FoxEye · 16 Jul 2017 at 17:53

Psycho Sonny said:
I just got a 1060 3gb and tbh it plays PUBG incredibly smoothly even on high.

The only people who should be spending £300+ on a gpu are those playing @ 4K.

@ 1080p a G4560 (£60 CPU) and 1060 (£200 gpu) is all you need.

I personally wouldn't touch a 3GB card, even for 1080p.

As for the 1060 3GB being a £200 GPU... well, currently the only ones in stock are 3GB @ £250, and 6GB @ £320.

I seem to remember the 1060 6GB launching at £260-£280, and the 3GB card was always >£200.

All of those prices are too high for a xx60 card, which should be £150-£180, esp since the xx60 is now the 5th best card, not 3rd best.

humbug · 16 Jul 2017 at 17:53

If you do have a lot of GPU power sitting idle then once this game goes into Alpha 3.0 stage it will make good use of it.
After-all what's the point of being a member of the PC Master Race if not using all that power?

This is a fan made video, no not me.

Yip, the more citizens the better

Gregster · 16 Jul 2017 at 18:43

melmac said:
I didn't say it was rude, I said it was elitist. Can't you read? And He did get defensive because nowhere in my post do I say anything about his purchasing choices.

And what exactly was rude with this statement from Sastusbulbas?

Well done. I expected nothing less!

Telecaster · 16 Jul 2017 at 19:52

FoxEye said:
I personally wouldn't touch a 3GB card, even for 1080p.

As for the 1060 3GB being a £200 GPU... well, currently the only ones in stock are 3GB @ £250, and 6GB @ £320.

I seem to remember the 1060 6GB launching at £260-£280, and the 3GB card was always >£200.

All of those prices are too high for a xx60 card, which should be £150-£180, esp since the xx60 is now the 5th best card, not 3rd best.

You can pick up a 1060 3GB for £190 from the rain forest.

V F · 16 Jul 2017 at 20:22

FoxEye said:
I personally wouldn't touch a 3GB card, even for 1080p.

As for the 1060 3GB being a £200 GPU... well, currently the only ones in stock are 3GB @ £250, and 6GB @ £320.

I seem to remember the 1060 6GB launching at £260-£280, and the 3GB card was always >£200.

All of those prices are too high for a xx60 card, which should be £150-£180, esp since the xx60 is now the 5th best card, not 3rd best.

Assassin's Creed Syndicate uses 5.5GB the last I remember on the card.

melmac · 16 Jul 2017 at 22:12

Gregster said:
Well done. I expected nothing less!

And what exactly does that mean? If you can point out where I said String was rude then please do so.

Nexus18 said:
+1

It looks like Nexus18 was the only one that replied to my post that understood what I was saying.

But for those that didn't quite get it, see above, I wasn't criticising anybody's purchasing decisions.

jjgreenwood · 16 Jul 2017 at 22:42

It feels to me like the software isn't keeping up with the hardware. There isn't much that gives me a new experience anymore, even on consoles the games have massive multiplayer worlds in a high resolution with acceptable framerates. The software developers just don't seem to be able to come up with new mechanics that require heavy hardware - the days of needing an expensive PC to play Battlefield, or a big RTS, or an RPG etc are over. The most interesting game I've played this year is Zelda and that is on a mobile chipset. I don't think developers are being held back by hardware to put what happens in their imagination onto the screen - its just that there isn't many new ideas out there, or the appetite to take risks on what is now a very expensive business to produce a AAA title. Some of the Sony titles are interesting but I notice their single player experiences end up in the bargain bins and on the preowned counters quickly so perhaps I can see why we are ending up in this situation. I suspect the death of physical media when it happens may reverse the trend.

JediFragger · 16 Jul 2017 at 22:45

humbug said:
We need AMD to do to nVidia what they just did to Intel

Give crap gaming performance??

kration · 17 Jul 2017 at 01:16

jjgreenwood said:
It feels to me like the software isn't keeping up with the hardware....

That's a very good point. It's not software (i.e games) that's persuaded me to upgrade my graphics card to a 1080ti. Instead, it was the move to VR. My 290 was OK, but I needed more power for VR and a multimonitor set-up. Without VR I'd have been happy with my 290.

In my experience it's bits of hardware leading me to upgrade other bits of hardware.

Psycho Sonny · 17 Jul 2017 at 11:23

FoxEye said:
I personally wouldn't touch a 3GB card, even for 1080p.

As for the 1060 3GB being a £200 GPU... well, currently the only ones in stock are 3GB @ £250, and 6GB @ £320.

I seem to remember the 1060 6GB launching at £260-£280, and the 3GB card was always >£200.

All of those prices are too high for a xx60 card, which should be £150-£180, esp since the xx60 is now the 5th best card, not 3rd best.

OcUK has a code for the 1060 6GB for £240. I picked up the 3GB from MM for £165. The original owners receipt was included and they paid £166 so it must have been at the price at some point . Yes I only paid £1 less for second hand but I got the receipt, it was only a month old and prices have went up. I didn't think it was worth £80 (an additional 50%) for an increase of what 20% at best?

As for 3GB not being enough most games will use what is available or allocate more than what they actually need so you don't know how much they are actually using. 3GB seems to be on the edge IMO but just enough. If you play the most demanding games then pay £240 for the 6GB. Again like I said £60 CPU and £240 on a GPU is still only £300, add a £100 mobo and then RAM is the most overpriced component right now. Go second hand for savings. I have 24GB of RAM in my system as I bought 8GB brand new as I was on a budget then picked up the same RAM second hand in a 16GB set for cheap to add to it.

PUBG can make any system crawl on ultra. It seems to be running PUBG @ high comfortably. I need to play a few games with an FPS counter on screen to really see what is going on though.

It also overclocks like a BEAST. using stock volts I've gotten 200 on the core, I could go higher it seemed to crash at around +220 but I though I'd go for a safe setting rather than try 215 or 210 when I benchmarked it so I stuck with +200 for the run. I also got a massive boost of +750 on the memory stable for the benchmark. I think it was officially the joint 3rd fastest 1060 3GB in 3D mark benchmarks in the world. Again this artifacted when I went to about +800 so I think around +775 would have been fine but I wanted to be safe for the benchmark. so that is +200 and +750 and it benchmarked fine.

I decided to run even safer settings so I've clocked it down to +175 and +600 just to be 100% safe. It only has 1 fan the VRAM doesn't have any heatsinks so +600 is still huge. I could buy a third party cooler with VRAM heatsinks but don't see the point. All 1060 3GB's should be able to hit +200 on the core and +600 on the RAM comfortably. I'm running the core on +175 because of only 1 fan, if it had 2 I would run +200. This is also why I only overclocked using stock volts and didn't touch the power limit at all.

Psycho Sonny · 17 Jul 2017 at 11:27

V F said:
Assassin's Creed Syndicate uses 5.5GB the last I remember on the card.

it will be allocating 5.5GB it may not be using it all. plus as I said above it's still only £240 for the 6GB version.

the G4560 (£60 cpu) doesn't bottleneck a 1060 at all. It does bottleneck the 1070 and above though. so they are the perfect match up.

you could even go for a 1050 ti. which has 4GB of VRAM. so it doesn't have the power of the 1060 3GB but it does have slightly more VRAM.