Anyone else wanting to upgrade but just can't stomach paying so much for it?

[easyrider]

Sounds like your 8 hour AIDA stability thread lol.

I'm flattered you remember...

Did you manage 8 hours?

Or did you just delude yourself?

 

[easyrider]

Was moaning about it at the start but a 34' widescreen forced my hand in laying out my shekels for a 1080. Since I tend to keep my cards for at least 2-3 years, I guess the long term value and enjoyment I get out of it ain't too bad when calculated on a daily pro rata figure. But yea, the initial cash outlay drove me nuts. Which is why I done it when I was drunk!

Best post of this thread...

By the time some of these so called gamers upgrade my 1080 will be long gone and I will have moved on...

Waiting is Futile...Just enjoy this hobby for what it is...If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen lol

 

[JediFragger]

Was moaning about it at the start but a 34' widescreen forced my hand in laying out my shekels for a 1080. Since I tend to keep my cards for at least 2-3 years, I guess the long term value and enjoyment I get out of it ain't too bad when calculated on a daily pro rata figure. But yea, the initial cash outlay drove me nuts. Which is why I done it when I was drunk!

X34 + 1080 = Awesome

 

[melmac]

DING DING DING!!! We have a guy who has no idea folks. NVidia release cards and price them according to what they feel is the price that will make tidy profit.

And why have I no clue? I am saying exactly that. Tell that to Caracus2K who stated that the prices are not Nvidia's fault.

Nvidia is the one that sets their prices, Nvidia are the ones who moved their pricing structure up one tier. Nvidia, nobody else.

And this has worked for them. They are making a tidy profit, look at their discrete GPU profits. Despite a shrinking market and losing market share they are still making record GPU profits. People have tried to defend Nvidia's pricing by saying that it's costing them more to make cards now. If that was the case then their GPU profits wouldn't be increasing.

It's simply this, Nvidia did a name change and bumped their pricing up. It's not rocket science. They are charging more for each product tier, that's why they are making more money.

Fair play to Nvidia, it was brilliant marketing.

 

[easyrider]

X34 + 1080 = Awesome

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Think i missed something here but yea i own both consoles PS4 and Xbox One but primarily game on my PC. I only own consoles for the exclusives but it does kill me playing because i can feel that sub 60FPS now im so used to gaming on my PC especially with Gsync.

I thought people who don't want to pay more for cards should only get consoles - isn't that what some are saying here due to PCMR.

Pfft,you are not PCMR enough as you have this weird thing called a budget limit.

Really,PC gamers don't have any limits.

Also because I have a full frame dSLR I look down on all those who don't spend at least £1000 on a camera and don't go full frame. Full frame or go home is my motto - stupid aps-c users. They should not bother and use a phone.

Yet my mate Dave at the local photo club has a Hassleblad medium format camera and he tends to give me looks of disgust when go out to take pictures.

When I see an aps-c user on the street I tend to mock them.

Phone camera users are a lost case - I hate phone cameras so much I broke mine on purpose!

I also am hoping Nikon increases the price of my next camera by 50% too since I tend to keep cameras for over three years. All that howling in the camera section about price increases - they should be demanding the price increases. I mean even in the apple subforum they are moaning about the latest price increases and Apple makes more money than any other company. I shake my head.

Silly entitled people - they need to be worrying about the poor American and Japanese CEOs not being to afford their next veyron - surely that's something worth putting in a few more hours at work for??

After all they are huge companies which pay lots of UK tax and contribute massively to the local economy? Not like that bloody Unilever who had the audacity to try increase the price of Marmite and who don't employ 1000s of people in this country.

Gotta want to pay as much as we can for their products,right?

 

[Dervious]

http://www.hl.co.uk/shares/shares-search-results/n/nvidia-com-stk-$0.001-cdi

~$5billion revenue.

<$1billion profit.

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www.hl.co.uk

Intel seem to have a higher profit margin.

http://www.lse.co.uk/share-fundamentals.asp?shareprice=ARM&share=

And ARM holdings.

If Nvidia don't make a decent profit, why would they bother continuing to develop GPUs ?

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

http://www.hl.co.uk/shares/shares-search-results/n/nvidia-com-stk-$0.001-cdi

~$5billion revenue.

<$1billion profit.

Intel Corporation US$ 0.001 (Crest Depository Interest) share price

The latest Intel Corporation share price. View recent trades and share price information for Intel Corporation and other shares.

www.hl.co.uk

Intel seem to have a higher profit margin.

http://www.lse.co.uk/share-fundamentals.asp?shareprice=ARM&share=

And ARM holdings.

If Nvidia don't make a decent profit, why would they bother continuing to develop GPUs ?

I know - look at the Apple subforum and many other forums.

So much whining about Apple increasing pricing a few percent - Apple needs to spend money on R and D and chip design too. If they don't increase prices they won't be able to engineer the next marvellous iExperience.

This is why the iPhone 6 failed - it was meant to be the first production flexible phone but because they didn't make enough money and they didn't have enough R and D spend they underengineered it.

Same with the Samsung S7 Note - lack of R and D spend due to depressed pricing meant they underengineered the hand warming function on the phone.

It was the same with all the moaning about Unilever increasing price by a few pence - they need more money to pay UK workers and invest in the country to create more jobs.

But you get all these entitled people complaining at them - they might as well plonk those jobs in Ireland at this rate!!

 

[nashathedog]

I'm after a card that offers 50-100% performance increase for up-to £300 that isn't 2nd hand and isn't from the same product line I currently own.

It's not gonna happen, Your options are a 6gb 1060 from £250 or an 8gb 1070 from £380. There's no middle ground with a 300 pound budget, All £300 will get you is an expensive 1060 or 480 which while offering extra ram doesn't offer much more performance, The 1070 is the only one that offers the performance increase you're hoping for so you either add the extra 80 quid or you don't.

If it was me I'd pop in here and elsewhere daily checking for a 1070 deal and you might get lucky and grab a £350 pound one as was offered a while back with the Palit.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

It's not gonna happen, Your options are a 6gb 1060 from £250 or an 8gb 1070 from £380. There's no middle ground with a 300 pound budget, All £300 will get you is an expensive 1060 or 480 which while offering extra ram doesn't offer much more performance, The 1070 is the only one that offers the performance increase you're hoping for so you either add the extra 80 quid or you don't.

If it was me I'd pop in daily checking for a 1070 deal and you might get lucky and grab a £350 pound one as was offered a while back with the Palit.

Or they wait another six months to a year??

AMD and Nvidia have not even got their whole range out.

The last time we went to a new node it took 12 months for prices to start to get competitive.

AMD and Nvidia started throwing AAA games in even if you bought a £25 card.

I mean do people really need to max out Ark that badly??

 

[ljt]

It's not gonna happen, Your options are a 6gb 1060 from £250 or an 8gb 1070 from £380. There's no middle ground with a 300 pound budget, All £300 will get you is an expensive 1060 or 480 which while offering extra ram doesn't offer much more performance, The 1070 is the only one that offers the performance increase you're hoping for so you either add the extra 80 quid or you don't.

If it was me I'd pop in daily checking for a 1070 deal and you might get lucky and grab a £350 pound one as was offered a while back with the Palit.

That £300 budget for 50-100% performance improvement has always worked for me up until now. (AMD 5850 to GTX 670, then GTX 670 to 970) have both fit that criteria.

I know it doesn't work now because of our crappy exchange rate. So I'm simply not going to bother. I'll manage just fine with my 970 until the exchange rate gets back to previous levels (in the short term) and makes the 1070 fit back into my budget.

If the currency doesn't get back to some sort of normality, then I'm quite happy to stick with my 970 even longer until a card does, such as a GTX 1160 or if AMD ever come out with something as I'm not brand loyal.

Thankfully I'm way past the point of wanting to max settings out just because I can, as I get older the type of games I'm playing mean a beefy graphics card is becoming less and less of a requirement too.

The only thing that would force my hand would be if my 970 goes kaput.

 

[mw8t]

This has nothing to do with fairness. everything has a cost, components, salaries, R&D, future survival of a company.

I cannot blame them because of the prices.

All we can do is decide what's best for us and how much we are willing to go to get what we want. That's it and that's how the market works.

960 Evo 250gb offered at £110 pre-order

3 days later its £140

This has everything to do with fairness. Would have paid £110 but now will just go without and spend my money elsewhere

And I am aware how markets work thanks.

 

[Terrorfirmer]

OCUK have the Fury now for £276 which is actually a pretty good in-between option.

 

[LoadsaMoney]

If they were too expensive, then they wouldn't sell, they'd just be left on the shelves/in warehouses, just gathering dust, and then Nvidia would drop their prices, but they're not, we only have ourselves to blame, as no matter what prices Nvidia churn them out for, we will not, and can not, stop buying them, Nvidia are only giving us what we want!.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

If they were too expensive, then they wouldn't sell, they'd just be left on the shelves/in warehouses, just gathering dust, and then Nvidia would drop their prices, but they're not, we only have ourselves to blame, as no matter what prices Nvidia churn them out for, we will not, and can not, stop buying them, Nvidia are only giving us what we want!.

Its like some special Nvidia sauce added to their cards!! Hmm,Nvidia special sauce.

 

[easyrider]

If they were too expensive, then they wouldn't sell, they'd just be left on the shelves/in warehouses, just gathering dust, and then Nvidia would drop their prices, but they're not, we only have ourselves to blame, as no matter what prices Nvidia churn them out for, we will not, and can not, stop buying them, Nvidia are only giving us what we want!.

Its like some special Nvidia sauce added to their cards!! Hmm,Nvidia special sauce.

All people do is when new gen is coming they sell their 970 or whatever and put this towards the upgrade...

They sell before the price of the last gen drops to much...

Like selling a 970 for £ 165 in MM

349-165= 184

Boom ...1070 sorted

Then rinse and repeat...

Moaning about the pricing is not productive it just winds you up even more as your frustrated a 970 is now worth 110 in MM making the upgrade even harder...

I sold my 980ti for £375 a few weeks before 1070 , 1080

Ok I had no PC for a few weeks so I watched box sets and went in my studio...something I should do more rather than waste my time playing games lol

 

[whyscotty]

PG348Q + 1080 = Awesome

Fixed

 

[Gregster]

Its like some special Nvidia sauce added to their cards!! Hmm,Nvidia special sauce.

For me personally, I like to run games with all the bells and whistles. Take VR for example and having the screen so close to your eyes, it is a must having it run with supersampling and to run that and keep frames high, a decent GPU is required. The same goes for running games like The Division with decent quality settings.

I also do use my PC for gaming and this year has seen my gaming time grow to silly amounts and as I work hard and can afford it, why shouldn't I buy the latest and greatest within my budget? No special sauce needed but frames per second instead.

 

[ICEx21]

For me personally, I like to run games with all the bells and whistles. Take VR for example and having the screen so close to your eyes, it is a must having it run with supersampling and to run that and keep frames high, a decent GPU is required. The same goes for running games like The Division with decent quality settings.

I also do use my PC for gaming and this year has seen my gaming time grow to silly amounts and as I work hard and can afford it, why shouldn't I buy the latest and greatest within my budget? No special sauce needed but frames per second instead.

My thoughts exactly, if you can afford it and not neglect your other duties then it's fair game.

 

[elmuzzy66.]

With Nvidia you get mad because of the prices, with amd you get mad because there is no upgrade path. I got a 980ti so for me to go amd I need something faster than that. When vega is out it will be faster (I hope) but then NVidia will have their next gpus out.