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Anyone just given up on looking for a new GPU?
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There is no beta driver or hacks for other LHR cards. Buy a mining card if you want to mine. Dont sell a gaming gpu if you mined on it for full second hand value. They are not designed for the loads and overclock miners put on the cards. As stated by the manufacture and the fact it voids warrenty.
Now the strawman. Personal experience is the lowest form of evidence, its considered unreliable. Personal experience arguments are routinely used by crackpots and sharletons because they want to avoid something like evidence based reasoning.
Using google would be supperior in every way to your personal experience because it would be searching a bigger pool of knowledge and with good reasoning you could find evidence or observations that dont aline with your experience. Yet you argue like google search for evidence is somehow something wrong. Your strawman arguement is not intellegent, its the opposite. The issue here is you dont google.
My advise, be honest and tell the guy buying any of your near death husks. That these are mining cards, that they are worth a small fraction of msrp and likely have no warrenty. Likely to die after 6 months or lower.
At least from OCUK they will replace the pads, the paste, clean the card, test the card and give you a 90 day warrenty. Sell the card as b-grade.
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What a load of absolute rubbish.
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The internet (ie what Google uses) can be a cesspit of unregulated disinformation. Personal experience or obtaining information from sources you trust is more reliable. Google is but a tool for researching information - it still needs validation against other data inputs. Google is also well known to harbour its fair share of ‘crackpots and sharletons’. Did you know that 5G caused COVID BTW?
Opinion is subjective argument, like experience. Personal experience is the argument of everyone from god is real, to the earth is flat. I have shown objective proof. Not me thats going to look like the worlds biggest moron. Just warming you. Attacking someone with proof and evidence already posted in thread. The type of evidence thats makes something an unassailable point. Leads only to place, getting your ass kicked.
Feel feel to knock your head against the wall. I dont have to reply. My point is proven and made.
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Plays worlds smallest violin. Growup.
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Hi all is it still a bad time to upgrade a GPU at the moment and if so any chance of it ending soon?
Looking to upgrade my gtx770. ( I know pretty old ) looking to spend £250 ish any recommendations or is it best to wait.
Looking to upgrade my gtx770. ( I know pretty old ) looking to spend £250 ish any recommendations or is it best to wait.
There is hope prices will fall now China has a mining ban.
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You seem a little confused over what opinion is vs experience. One can form opinion from experience (and other sources), which may be flawed or not, but they are not the same. I also fail to see what I wrote could be taken as 'attacking' you - that seems a tad sensitive. All I said is that the Internet, and what Google finds there, can contain a lot of misinformation and needs validating. That is a statement of fact, not opinion, and can easily be proved. And yet you feel the need to suggest that others people must be morons.
Opinion are based on evidence actually.
What you talk about is belief.
Many confuse those two.
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I'll have my opinion whether you like it or not, total rubbish. You sound like you have some issues.
Whilst I get what you're trying to say here, this is a massive over-simplification. If you whack all the clocks, voltage, etc. up to max and stick the card in a tiny mITX case with no airflow, it's going to overheat* and eventually die.
Whilst the individual tweaks you can do in AB are (generally) safe, some sense still needs to be used when applying them. It's also unlikely that the card is rated to handle the overclocks on a sustained basis - fine for gaming where you have (relatively) short bursts of intense usage, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's not going to have a negative effect if you run it at 120% 24/7. If that were the case, then why wouldn't they be factory clocked to run at those speeds? Nvidia etc. wouldn't purposefully make their cards worse for no reason. Obviously there are things you can do to mitigate/eliminate these risks (e.g. plenty of airflow, regularly reapplying thermal paste etc.), but they have to cater for the "average" user who will stick it in a small case on their dusty carpet with a single cooling fan.
It's almost certain that manufacturers don't run the cards at actual 100% by default because that causes x% of premature failures, and someone will have worked out that running at e.g. 90% of potential means cards last an extra x years, resulting in less failures during warranty.
* Well, it will probably crash way before that point, but lets assume a perfect card which can accept the max overclock that can be applied by afterburner
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They don't do it for no reason, they do it because they don't have the resource to test each and every individual card to work out it's limitations. The obvious solution is to settle on a uniform set of parameters that all the units can handle without issue.
Question: has there been a single RMA refused on the basis of misuse where there has been no hardware modification or BIOS modification? I can't recall ever seeing a case discussed in the near decade that I've been an active member here
You are right, there can be opinions based on subjective or objective reasoning. An opinion can be based on belief or evidence. Its only if the belief is completely unfounded and you wont change your mind. That one then considers it a delusion.
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Professional cards are normally clocked lower, both core and memory. Their cooling is better and more or less runs at full all the time. The fans in a rack mount can run up to 6000rpm, they are also very loud. A constant load that increases temps to unsafe levels. With say the vram, outside the 0-95c operational temps. That can reduce the operational life span of the chips. Some miners are running the vram at 104c 24/7 in some videos. This then destroys the thermal pads and causes the vram to hit 112c. This causes a fluid to leak out of the card. If this fluid gets into a PCIe riser it causes a short. The heat pipes leak fluid as well whne they break.
Then add on top that miners overclock the vram to its maximum. Jerry rigging cooling solutions onto the cards to keep them cool. Like gluing big heatsinks to the back of the cards and adding active cooling with fans. Also replacing the thermal pads for ones that work better at higher temps outside the normal operating temps.
This is extreme overclocking and voids warrenty. Others dont even bother with better cooling and just run the cards 24/7 at unsafe temps. They just add a fan so the card does not throttle. Video after video of them trying to reduce 110c vRAM temps. This is bench runs, that end up running 24/7 heavy load.
After the profit is made, they go on ebay.
A6000 - https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/rtx-a6000.c3686 note no GDDR6x memory.
Nvidia CMP 170HX has 8GB HBM2E memory with a bandwidth of 1.500 GB/s, core clock of 1.40 GHz. Ethereum Hash Rate of 164 MH / s with a consumption of 250W.
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