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Anyone just given up on looking for a new GPU?
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How are you monitoring vram temp on the 3060Ti? I believe there is no temp sensor for vram in 3060Ti cards - is this right? Are you sure that's not actually the GPU temp?
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Nicehash stats show both.
It can't be showing you the VRAM temp if there is no temp sensor.
I'm guessing Nicehash is reporting GPU temp and GPU hotspot temp... are they both in the same ballpark (ie within 15 C of each other)?
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It could be a rogue sensor that it's picking up.
You can use a FLIR thermal image camera if your card does not report memory temps. https://www.justcryptocurrencies.co...ory-temperature-on-nvidia-rtx-30-series-gpus/
On the left image you can see the idle video memory temp we see on an ASUS EKWB GeForce RTX 3090 GPU and on the right the temperature of the video memory after we run PhoenixMiner with the tweaked RTX 3090 in order to give us 120 MHS hashrate for Ethereum mining. We get 36 degrees idle temperature, but when mining it bumps up to 92 degrees Celsius and this is a water-cooled GPU with the GPU temp going just about to 50 C under load.
A note regarding the new GDDR6X Memory Junction Temperature:
Just like in case of Navi, this is not the external (case) temperature, but internal junction temperature measured inside the silicon.
So don’t be scared to see higher values than other common temperatures, it’s expected. Also the limits are set respectively higher (throttling starts around 110 C).
EDIT: Adding that the value reported should be the current maximum temperature among all memory chips.
Checking the backplate of the water-cooled RTX 3090 with a FLIR thermal camera showed that at stock settings when mining you get around 72.8 C (the hottest spot) and with overclocked memory the hottest spot on the backplate where the memory chips are is 75.8 C. No wonder we got such high temperatures measured considering that the actual operating temperature of the memory is 92 degrees under the backplate. So, adding extra cooing fans on top of the backplate is definitely a must if you plan on using RTX 3090 for mining Ethereum. The same also goes for RTX 3080 when used for mining, though with the RTX 3070 and 3060 Ti the situation could be better due to the lower power usage they have, especially when optimized for mining.
So what happens with normal stock cooling some cards hit 110c or have very high memory temps, so the miners replace the thermal pads. Even with water cooling, some cards hit 92c and others hit 104c. There are lots of videos of the oil leaking out of the thermal pads
on 3080's and 3090's as they fail due to high temps for too long.
On the left image you can see the idle video memory temp we see on an ASUS EKWB GeForce RTX 3090 GPU and on the right the temperature of the video memory after we run PhoenixMiner with the tweaked RTX 3090 in order to give us 120 MHS hashrate for Ethereum mining. We get 36 degrees idle temperature, but when mining it bumps up to 92 degrees Celsius and this is a water-cooled GPU with the GPU temp going just about to 50 C under load.
A note regarding the new GDDR6X Memory Junction Temperature:
Just like in case of Navi, this is not the external (case) temperature, but internal junction temperature measured inside the silicon.
So don’t be scared to see higher values than other common temperatures, it’s expected. Also the limits are set respectively higher (throttling starts around 110 C).
EDIT: Adding that the value reported should be the current maximum temperature among all memory chips.
Checking the backplate of the water-cooled RTX 3090 with a FLIR thermal camera showed that at stock settings when mining you get around 72.8 C (the hottest spot) and with overclocked memory the hottest spot on the backplate where the memory chips are is 75.8 C. No wonder we got such high temperatures measured considering that the actual operating temperature of the memory is 92 degrees under the backplate. So, adding extra cooing fans on top of the backplate is definitely a must if you plan on using RTX 3090 for mining Ethereum. The same also goes for RTX 3080 when used for mining, though with the RTX 3070 and 3060 Ti the situation could be better due to the lower power usage they have, especially when optimized for mining.
So what happens with normal stock cooling some cards hit 110c or have very high memory temps, so the miners replace the thermal pads. Even with water cooling, some cards hit 92c and others hit 104c. There are lots of videos of the oil leaking out of the thermal pads
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I'm clueless as to how you use Telegram notifications, any chance you can Trust me which channel you used etc? (assuming that's within the rules)
Cheers,
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I would not pay much attention to the stuff he says, he contradicts himself and usually shifts the goalposts.= 3080 struggles with 4k games
= 3080 only appropriate for 4k
Scored a RTX 3070 here. It goes to a HTPC, I thought the extra 130W would be a bridge too far. Plus it wouldn't physically fit so there's that! Apparently RTX 3070 pulls 60W more than RTX 2060 so it should be fine as far as the PSU goes.
Now if only I could score RTX 3080 for the bedroom computer..
Search for "FE PartAlert" group on telegram.
I have 750W Corsair one but it will be paired with 5600x so should be fine
Spot on, cheers...had a 3090 in the cart straight away, but then had a word with myself, I've waited this long for a 3080, i'll hang on a bit longer
(I can't justify the difference in price)
The alert usually comes in between 9:30-10:30 in the morning if that helps.Spot on, cheers...had a 3090 in the cart straight away, but then had a word with myself, I've waited this long for a 3080, i'll hang on a bit longer
(I can't justify the difference in price)
To some degree, it's a moral stance. I tend to see mining as hoovering up hundreds, thousands, maybe tens of thousands of GPUs, all in the name of jumping on a pyramid scheme, get-rich-quick bandwagon. Even worse, it's doing that while the *real* profits are going to the guy who 'created' that particular cryptocurrency. And I still can't work out why you need cryptocurrency for legal transactions. Does it have a purpose other than buying things you can't legally buy and blackmailing people? It's digital cash, and it has all the anonymity and lack of security that goes with.
That, and I really hate the idea that someone gets to take a GPU away from someone who wanted it for it's original purpose (gaming), run it for a year, then sell it on to the gamer with wear on it. It is scalping under another guise, only instead of doubling the price of the product and immediately re-selling, the miner extracts that value over time and re-sells at purchase price.
Buying from a scalper guarantees more scalpers will arise because the business model keeps working. If you don't like scalpers, you have to not buy from scalpers.
Bitcoin creator is reputedly dead and took his cryptowallet worth hundreds of millions to his grave. Another plus for cr*pto, it's really practically impossible to recover the funds if you don't have a key, with a bank estate can sue them as a last resort..
I have 750W Corsair one but it will be paired with 5600x so should be fine
That's plenty enough, RTX3070 wants ~210W max if you don't overclock it. I've got a XFX 550W PSU, it's pushing it a little bit. It should still work fine but might be noisy. I might want to swap that for modular PSU in any case, that rat's nest of unused cabling restricts airflow somewhat.
We've been banging this drum for months/years now, the miners only see $$$ and nothing negative, borderline sociopathic but then there are worse things happening in the world, the miners gotta have those gold toilets.
Until governments intervene nothing will change (which they are doing to a small extent, and look at that, things changed a little).
Sue who? Nobody knows for sure who created bitcoin. I'm personally not going to pay £1200 or whatever highly overinflated price for a card especially not buying from Scalpers.