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Anyone just given up on looking for a new GPU?
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are they gold plated? What happened to the MSRP ?
Indeed I'm happy to wait another 2-3 months for better pricing and have a good pick of cards.
I hope so, but I'm not so sure when we have Brexit and Covid causing problems.Same buddy, they can stuff it at those prices! Patience will pay off
Just being devils advocate here but what if it’s 6-9 months, or 9-12 months before things return to normal for pricing and availability?
Oh I wasn’t saying it was a good thing. Just wondering if normality is actually likely to return as soon as we’d all like.
I bought a 3090FE, I’m not the most rational when it comes to PC purchases myself but I wasn’t prepared to wait six months for a 3080Ti and then pay as much as a 3090FE for it anyway.
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This is probably the new normal for pricing, everyone loves that saying now the new normal and I am sure companies will be happy with it too. How will prices return to 6month-year ago? They are what they are now, they are still selling, so any new products down the line won't just start being cheaper... At least I'll comfort myself with these thoughts after paying over the odds anyway, or did I just pay what the future is going to be who knows.
Just buy at the end of the cycle rather than at the beginning. These cards are new, if they ever ramp up volume (IF) then demand will fall away, unless - because of "lockdown insanity" - people decide to build a gaming PC for every room, including the kitchen
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The problem is that consumers have to "compete" with each other when supply is low relative to demand.
Before Covid, Nvidia thought it had to compete with AMD (and Pascal) so it made compelling offers with the 3070 and 3080. The 3090 was probably thrown out there just to capture the small "best at any price" segment of the market.
Covid, and various government reactions thereto, have created a situation where people have time and money on there hands with limited options for spending it.
So now we as consumers are the ones that have to "compete" for the limited supply. Since there aren't enough components to go around, price is the only way to determine who wants what the most.
I built a sim rig for someone who *really* wanted it up and running for him and his son by Christmas day. His 3080 cost him $1,300 and his 5800X cost him $600. I wanted both of those components, and could have bought them....I just didn't want them *that* much.
He simply wanted those components more than I did.
Before Covid, Nvidia thought it had to compete with AMD (and Pascal) so it made compelling offers with the 3070 and 3080. The 3090 was probably thrown out there just to capture the small "best at any price" segment of the market.
Covid, and various government reactions thereto, have created a situation where people have time and money on there hands with limited options for spending it.
So now we as consumers are the ones that have to "compete" for the limited supply. Since there aren't enough components to go around, price is the only way to determine who wants what the most.
I built a sim rig for someone who *really* wanted it up and running for him and his son by Christmas day. His 3080 cost him $1,300 and his 5800X cost him $600. I wanted both of those components, and could have bought them....I just didn't want them *that* much.
He simply wanted those components more than I did.
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Just buy at the end of the cycle rather than at the beginning. These cards are new, if they ever ramp up volume (IF) then demand will fall away, unless - because of "lockdown insanity" - people decide to build a gaming PC for every room, including the kitchen
Well lockdown insanity isn't going away so guess I need to start looking for GPU 2 for the kitchen PC
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i gave up for a bit but it seems people are succeeding a bit more now so im having another look ha ha
Yep very steep. But i just sold my vega64 to a friend for £350 ( it was his offer not what i asked lol) So it really only cost me £375. So if you have a card to move on you will recoup some of that as second hand prices are as stupid as new!
We just have to hope that AMD gets its act together and ramps up production. If they don't, some people will be buying 2nd, 3rd and 4th cards at £1000+ before people like you and I buy one. Some people can't help themselves - lockdown seems to have driven some people into a spending frenzy, and there's no sign of it abating.
old sales tactics, FOMO=fear of missing out, used to discuss quite often in sales meetings, very few actually need set items,people want to run with the crowd, plus limiting an item inceases FOMO substantially.
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If only it were that simple. Shipping containers are now 10x the normal price because there in such short supply and demand is overwhelming which is creating bottlenecks in the supply chain for some of the parts, AMD can probably produce a whole bunch of big Navi's if they want but board partners are struggling to produce the final product in large quantities due shortages for other parts (fans, heatsinks, mofsets, VRM's, PCB's, packaging material etc)
So how do we explain nVidia having 5x the stock and sales that AMD does
where did you get 10 times the cost, at most its around 6 times for small businesses, cheaper for bigger companies ,you starting to sound like the british bias corporation