Anyone just given up on looking for a new GPU?

[denigor777]

So to conclude, you think that mining overall can not be considered wasteful, no matter how many GPU's it is using on full blast, as long as it is also being used to heat the room it is in.

Irrefutable logic.

Yes, this is correct. If you wpuld have heated that room directly or indirectly by fossil fuels, then you may as well heat it by mining instead There is no waste there. The waste comes when you need to get rid of excess heat, such as when you mine in summertime. Then that isn't good for the environment.

 

[FoxEye]

Yes, this is correct. If you wpuld have heated that room directly or indirectly by fossil fuels, then you may well heat it by mining instead There is no waste there. The waste comes when you need to get rid of excess heat, such as when you mine in summertime.

I very much doubt that chap with 30 GPUs is going to turn off his farm in summer

"Heating your house" is s very thin justification for mining.

 

[Defiant306]

I see Zotac are promotion sales to cryptominers now over on twitter...

I won't be buying one of their cards anytime soon, even if I could that is

 

[McPhee]

"Heating your house" is s very thin justification for mining.

Does anyone need to justify it?

 

[pc-guy]

150w heat is very small to heat a room. Even 30 load is only 4.5kw. That itself is still fairly small to hear a big room which 30GPU rig will need.

 

[FoxEye]

On a non-mining related tangent, it really is starting to annoy me how many people are rolling out "stop being poor" responses to these prices.

PC gaming didn't need to become more elitist, but with many ordinary gamers now favouring consoles, what we're increasingly left with is the elitists who actually enjoy the high prices. Makes their hobby more exclusive or something daft.

 

[sor1706]

150w heat is very small to heat a room. Even 30 load is only 4.5kw. That itself is still fairly small to hear a big room which 30GPU rig will need.

It generates a lot of heat I have them in large cases (not open) with 4 powerful exhaust fans in each case to remove heat. They sound like jet engines but not too bad about 60dbs. During summer it will need an air con unit on, yes i know more electric but again with these things returning 10 x times £ the cost of electric I don't actually care especially as i have a 4kw solar panel running as well and during the evening after 9pm when the sun goes down cheap Electric car Tariff electric. So not an issue. Oh and as I run them as a business the electric used is a Tax right off.

 

[FoxEye]

It generates a lot of heat I have them in large cases (not open) with 4 powerful exhaust fans in each case to remove heat. They sound like jet engines but not too bad about 60dbs. During summer it will need an air con unit on, yes i know more electric but again with these things returning 10 x times £ the cost of electric I don't actually care especially as i have a 4kw solar panel running as well and during the evening after 9pm when the sun goes down cheap Electric car Tariff electric. So not an issue. Oh and as I run them as a business the electric used is a Tax right off.

And you don't pay tax on the profits!

Well that all sounds very above board and legit to me!

Isn't life great when people don't pay taxes?

 

[Purgatory]

 

[pc-guy]

its gonna be a long while efore the this bull run finishes...

 

[sor1706]

And you don't pay tax on the profits!

Well that all sounds very above board and legit to me!

Isn't life great when people don't pay taxes?

Electricity is my cost of doing business so of course its a legitimate Tax right off. I then pay corporation tax on my profits after taking into account those costs. Thats how most businesses are run so i don't see your point.

 

[sor1706]

its gonna be a long while efore the this bull run finishes...

Ethereum 2.0 is expected to come some time in early 2022 but could be pushed back to 2023 and EIP 1559 mid 2021. At that point (ETH 2.0) as things stand GPU mining will become unprofitable as ETH goes full Point of Stake and will be run by Validators rather than miners. But by 2023 who knows what else will be available.

 

[subbytna]

Ditch the mining chat. take it to the crypto forums.

Anyone had any luck recently getting their mitts on a card? Or have you given up on looking for one until the Summer/A.N. Othertime?

 

[Defy Belief]

Ditch the mining chat. take it to the crypto forums.

Anyone had any luck recently getting their mitts on a card? Or have you given up on looking for one until the Summer/A.N. Othertime?

Bought a bundle, 2700x, board, ram, cooler and 3070 for £899.99, sold the bundle for £300, minus £15 for shipping..makes the 3070 £615 for an asus dual, which is about £65 over rrp I think.

EVERY stock alert of late was a model where the price was £719 up to £799, so all in all was worth doing to get my hands on one.

Installed it last night


python validate json

 

[Major774]

Ditch the mining chat. take it to the crypto forums.

Anyone had any luck recently getting their mitts on a card? Or have you given up on looking for one until the Summer/A.N. Othertime?

Managed to quickly pay and order my MSI 3070 Gaming X Trio for £720 with a UK retailer on 16 Feb, sold out within 2-3 mins, stock level 10+.

 

[subbytna]

Debating selling my 5600XT card. I just dont have time to game any more. I doubt i'd find a lesser card though to let me use the PC (no IGP with 3600 CPU) so I'm stuck keeping it. No bad thing I guess, if I ever want to game in future I've got somethign that'll do me at 1080p just fine.

 

[Doc1771]

I’ve been trying to find something for my nephew.

He’s going to inherit my old pc which is a 3570k and a 780 standard.

I stopped using it as I couldn’t get a GPU back when the 1080 was around so went back to console and moved to Mac for other stuff.

I needed to replace my Mac late last year and went 5800x and 6800xt as didn’t want to be first in the door with M1.

Had hoped that by now prices used would have gone back to sane but no luck.

 

[4k4uNuNu]

Does anyone need to justify it?

An inefficient process at a time when climate change is happening and we need to conserve energy.
A currency that is heavily used in criminal activity, I haven't had a scammer try to use anything other than bitcoin in recent times.
At a time when there are chip shortages, encouraging people to consume processors simply to make money to afford the processor and the gold toilet they want to buy.

I would say yes. Yes is the answer.

Governments should have banned this **** ages ago. They are useless when it comes to technology though* and probably won't get involved though until it affects stuff like national security or medical equipment. Which it will, given time.


*remember when they wanted to make downloading a movie a criminal offense? Or how they still don't recognise gambling lootboxes as gambling? Or how a good percentage of the country still doesn't have adequate broadband capabilities? Despite the information technology age, we are still run by dinosaurs.

 

[chrcoluk]

BBC interviewed couple of scalpers, which is good as it brings this sour practice to the eyes of the lawmakers.

 

[Richdog]

BBC interviewed couple of scalpers, which is good as it brings this sour practice to the eyes of the lawmakers.

Because you are too lazy to provide a link... Scalping: The teens making thousands selling consoles online - BBC News

"Jake says he doesn't know how much money he's made from scalping - but the numbers are big.

"I honestly don't keep track. Maybe £10,000 since November," he tells Radio 1 Newsbeat."

10k in 5 months doesn't really seem like a lot, more like "casual scalper" status. However, you have to be an idiot to go public with this stuff... if you're going to do it then ffs keep it as quiet as possible.