Anyone know when do they replace the current line up of AV Receivers?

varkanoid · 22 Jul 2021 at 14:28

My Denon 2030 is quite a few years old now and still gets 2/3 firmware updates a year. Last one was 3 weeks ago.

Any electronic devices are going to be hit and miss at the moments its not just GPU's and this has been going on since Dec 2019 longer than people imagine as unless you want one of the items in short supply back then you didnt realise there was an issue (Quest and Switch)

monkeyspank · 30 Jul 2021 at 13:06

Raymond Lin said:
Make sense. The ones I have been looking at are all 9.2 anyway as they are all Atmos so that's not a problem there. My issue is the dodgy chip from last year and the lack of stock.

Did you make any decisions yet? I think I'm going to wait for the upcoming Onkyo/Pioneer which look to promise HDMI 2.1 on multiple ins. I'm keen on the Onkyo NR6100 or possibly Pioneer VSX-105. I'm not interested in Dirac really.
https://www.avnirvana.com/threads/o...look-at-the-brands’-latest-av-receivers.8292/

Raymond Lin · 30 Jul 2021 at 13:12

monkeyspank said:
Did you make any decisions yet? I think I'm going to wait for the upcoming Onkyo/Pioneer which look to promise HDMI 2.1 on multiple ins. I'm keen on the Onkyo NR6100 or possibly Pioneer VSX-105. I'm not interested in Dirac really.
https://www.avnirvana.com/threads/onkyo-pioneer-elite-and-integra-deep-dive-a-fresh-look-at-the-brands’-latest-av-receivers.8292/

I want to get one this weekend if i could but i am going to wait. I've waited this long. Really don't want to use an external box or wait for Yamaha updates which might never come.

MartinPrince · 30 Jul 2021 at 15:44

Raymond Lin said:
I want to get one this weekend if i could but i am going to wait. I've waited this long. Really don't want to use an external box or wait for Yamaha updates which might never come.

I would agree with your sentiments. I was going to wait until around November myself when prices and supply should have normalised but I luckily picked up a Denon X4400H which has the main things I needed in, eARC and Atmos 5.1.4. It does also sound excellent.

Raymond Lin · 30 Jul 2021 at 15:46

MartinPrince said:
I would agree with your sentiments. I was going to wait until around November myself when prices and supply should have normalised but I luckily picked up a Denon X4400H which has the main things I needed in, eARC and Atmos 5.1.4. It does also sound excellent.

I found a Marantz 7012 on AV Forum for about £700, that was a £1500 amp. I could get that but that is quite old now, it's about 3 or 4 generation old so I gave that a pass.

hornetstinger · 30 Jul 2021 at 17:54

Raymond Lin said:
I found a Marantz 7012 on AV Forum for about £700, that was a £1500 amp. I could get that but that is quite old now, it's about 3 or 4 generation old so I gave that a pass.

Check it has E-Arc, Auro3d, all HDR types, and can be adjusted from the MultiEQ app.

Raymond Lin · 24 Aug 2021 at 14:44

So I saw the news that Denon and Marantz have fixed their HDMI 2.1 bug for units made after May 2021. Called RS up to see if they have any stock, none...but there are 200+ people signed up for the next delivery in the Cheltenham store for their September batch already!

Raymond Lin · 15 Sep 2021 at 09:17

Update - Sevenoaks currently has stock of the Denon 2700, with the updated chip I have now ordered one, picking up after work today.

Who knows how long these chip shortages will lasts, it's coming up 2 years since I've had my OLED so need to get that 4K goodness from my media!

Yaayuh! · 15 Sep 2021 at 11:21

Raymond Lin said:
Update - Sevenoaks currently has stock of the Denon 2700, with the updated chip I have now ordered one, picking up after work today.

Who knows how long these chip shortages will lasts, it's coming up 2 years since I've had my OLED so need to get that 4K goodness from my media!

Woo hoo!

theone8181 · 16 Sep 2021 at 06:11

I really want a 3700h, but I can wait until a 3800 is released then get the 7 cheaper. It must be soon though as that range have been out since last year.

Raymond Lin · 16 Sep 2021 at 09:07

theone8181 said:
I really want a 3700h, but I can wait until a 3800 is released then get the 7 cheaper. It must be soon though as that range have been out since last year.

I would have prefered to have got that for the extra HDMI in but in the end, but both lack of stock + it's almost double the price isn't worth it.

I set it up last night and after a test everything is just SO much clearer, positioning of the surround tracks are much better. 8 years gap between my Sony really shows.

4k now also on every single thing plugged in, it's like I got a new TV

My OLED has like a new lease of life, 4K and Dolby Vision now intead of just HD.

The only thing i find weird is the sub seems less "big" or wooly. I have a feeling is because i was running it wrong before and got used to it. I found a couple of cables from the sub got disconnected somewhere along the line and i hadn't noticed. The bass is now tighter, don't notice where it comes from.

A very worthwhile upgrade.

Don't worry, I've peeled it off.

hornetstinger · 16 Sep 2021 at 09:46

I've just bought a Tonewinner AT-300.

http://www.tonewinner.com/goods.php?id=856

theone8181 · 16 Sep 2021 at 10:51

Raymond Lin said:
I would have prefered to have got that for the extra HDMI in but in the end, but both lack of stock + it's almost double the price isn't worth it.

I set it up last night and after a test everything is just SO much clearer, positioning of the surround tracks are much better. 8 years gap between my Sony really shows.

4k now also on every single thing plugged in, it's like I got a new TV My OLED has like a new lease of life, 4K and Dolby Vision now intead of just HD.

The only thing i find weird is the sub seems less "big" or wooly. I have a feeling is because i was running it wrong before and got used to it. I found a couple of cables from the sub got disconnected somewhere along the line and i hadn't noticed. The bass is now tighter, don't notice where it comes from.

A very worthwhile upgrade.

Don't worry, I've peeled it off.

I mainly want it as I have a 2200 and want the better audessy. The 2200 can then replace my 1610 which is on my pc.

hornetstinger · 16 Sep 2021 at 13:19

theone8181 said:
I mainly want it as I have a 2200 and want the better audessy. The 2200 can then replace my 1610 which is on my pc.

The base Denon have crap room eq until you get xt32

Raymond Lin · 16 Sep 2021 at 13:26

I read about that, I have an Anti-mode so not really bothered about the difference, not for almost double the money in my modest setup anyway.

I need to refresh all my speakers in the near future but just CBA.

hornetstinger · 16 Sep 2021 at 13:40

Raymond Lin said:
I read about that, I have an Anti-mode so not really bothered about the difference, not for almost double the money in my modest setup anyway.

I need to refresh all my speakers in the near future but just CBA.

It doesn't do a good job at HF for the speakers..best to disable it

Raymond Lin · 16 Sep 2021 at 13:42

hornetstinger said:
It doesn't do a good job at HF for the speakers..best to disable it

The HF isn’t passed through the anti mode, but it sounds good to me. Much better than my old Sony.

hornetstinger · 16 Sep 2021 at 13:44

Raymond Lin said:
The HF isn’t passed through the anti mode, but it sounds good to me. Much better than my old Sony.

I know I have antimode
The avr has room eq and that model does bad job of it.

Raymond Lin · 16 Sep 2021 at 13:48

hornetstinger said:
I know I have antimode
The avr has room eq and that model does bad job of it.

I'll give it a go later.

Just had a play, it sounds marginally better with it on so I’ll leave it.

richyfingers · 16 Sep 2021 at 18:43

In relation the new Denon units with the 2.1 fix I'd assume the fix would apply to the 1600x as well?