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robfosters said:
We just need to eat more turnips and work longer hours

www.independent.co.uk

Work more hours if you can’t afford food, Therese Coffey suggests

Environment secretary accused of ‘appalling’ comments – as she also suggests turnips were good seasonal replacement during fruit and veg shortage
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A shamelessly shoddy piece of disingenuous click bait reporting.

From watching the actual video ....

The MP in question suggested people could stick more to seasonal produce (which will be increasingly be a requirement if we are to continue down the 'net zero' path of madness promoted more heavily by the likes of Labour anyway) and said the best ways for people to improve their situation were to get into work and work longer hours as well as to upskill themselves.

and did she actually mention turnips or did the press just insert that for comic value when she only mentioned seasonal produce?

and with the 'more work' comment, combined with the get into work comment, with the he was clearly referring in the main *not* to people already working full time hours by rather the well known situation where people *by choice* decide to work no more than 16 hours a week so they can keep higher benefits payments coming it whilst also only working the equivalent of no more than full two days a week!

If the worked full time hour for an average of five days like many other people do they would be better of overall but of course would have to work harder for it and get less state handouts.
 
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Caracus2k said:
you will notice a lack of sources from the poster implying I am a 'fanatic' for using logic and sources for my argument when they often use none in their posts?

I voted to remain in the EU referendum, and I have always consistently said that.

But the shenanigans from many of the 'remainers' since has shown me that they act not out of a love for their country and /or a desire to see it thrive but rather out of their own spite and desire to see it fail and be rolled into their vision of a European technocratic super state that they believe will enforce something approaching their desired view of a top down command economy (which inevitably will turn out to be the dystopian hellhole all such efforts gravitate to)
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I think you have just schooled the pro EU frothers in the thread lol
 
mattx4 said:
Well the people that voted for Brexit wanted to take the UK back to the 1950s. I guess they forgot that included food rations
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clearly this isn't just a brexit issue however those who say it doesn't have anything to do with it are either blind or dishonest imo.
the whole of Europe is in a bad way at the moment that much is true and everyone is feeling the pinch.. but I do firmly believe we are feeling the pinch, be in energy prices, food shortages, inflation , worker shortages more than most and that brexit is partially to blame.
 
bigmike20vt said:
clearly this isn't just a brexit issue however those who say it doesn't have anything to do with it are either blind or dishonest imo.
the whole of Europe is in a bad way at the moment that much is true and everyone is feeling the pinch.. but I do firmly believe we are feeling the pinch, be in energy prices, food shortages, inflation , worker shortages more than most and that brexit is partially to blame.
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They just don’t want to admit or contributed to even 0.00000001% of the blame, fault, reasons, whatever causes, even that little. (On some issues)
 
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Raymond Lin said:
They just don’t want to admit or take even 0.00000001% of the blame, even that little.
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Nonsense. It the reflex reaction of certain posters to suggest the *primary* issue is the UK leaving the EU that is the issue here.

It's clearly not an issue being lead by the UK leaving the EU when Eire is in a very similar situation and other northern European states are having issues, albeit to a lesser degree.

This is entirely consistent with the British Isles (inc the UK and Eire) being the only large part of Northern Europe that isn't connected to the rest of Europe by land or a land connection over a bridge.
 
Caracus2k said:
and with the 'more work' comment, combined with the get into work comment, with the he was clearly referring in the main *not* to people already working full time hours by rather the well known situation where people *by choice* decide to work no more than 16 hours a week so they can keep higher benefits payments coming it whilst also only working the equivalent of no more than full two days a week!

If the worked full time hour for an average of five days like many other people do they would be better of overall but of course would have to work harder for it and get less state handouts.
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This is something I deal with quite a lot at work when we have extra hours and/or need people doing overtime and the problem is many of these people have given up - no matter what hours they work they'll never be able to afford a house, still going to struggle, etc. so they have no motivation to do anything other than work their 16 hours a week, get their social housing and benefits.
 
Caracus2k said:
Nonsense. It the reflex reaction of certain posters to suggest the *primary* issue is the UK leaving the EU that is the issue here.

It's clearly not an issue being lead by the UK leaving the EU when Eire is in a very similar situation and other northern European states are having issues, albeit to a lesser degree.

This is entirely consistent with the British Isles (inc the UK and Eire) being the only large part of Northern Europe that isn't connected to the rest of Europe by land or a land connection over a bridge.
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Exhibit A.

See what I mean? Just outright deny any problems cannot be attributed Brexit, not even partly, not even 0.0000001%.

Just outright deny it completely.

I’m not even saying Brexit cause it, I’m not even saying 50%, I’m merely suggesting there’s a possibility of 0.0000001%…but nope! No chance! First word straight out is “Nonsense!”
 
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413x said:
Eggs are a bit different.

Bird flu, cost of energy in barns, price of feed. Lots of factors here.

My girls are laying well but I've noticed the price of thier feed has gone up a lot.
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Some egg farmers are closing. No EU bursaries now.

Economists did warn people that Brexit would 1. Cause price rises and 2. Supply issues. Both are here. Some of the causes is the idiot Putin.

Everyone over 75 (in 2016) i know voted Brexit for immigration. Have you seen plane loads of people flying back to Poland or Romania?

Economists 2 Those who believed every word in the Daily Mail and Express 0.
 
Caracus2k said:
Nonsense. It the reflex reaction of certain posters to suggest the *primary* issue is the UK leaving the EU that is the issue here.
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Please quote the posts that stated that.


A grower on sky news also said lack of seasonal workers over the past few years (EU migrants) meant that farmers were opting not to plant certain vegetables because they've been left rotting in fields the previous few years and they have learnt their lessons and don't want to lose money.

He suggested we would soon be 75% reliant on fruit and veg imports, rather than the 66% we are currently.
 
200sols said:
Brexit causes cold weather in Morocco as well I reckon.
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That's climate change, just wait until the EU introduces some new rules around it that the UK will have to follow to be able to buy fresh fruit. That they could have changed or vetoed if they still had a seat at the table
 
Semple said:
I don't think that'll stop some people. I seem to remember at some point during lockdown some woman had made the news because she had bought so much stuff, that most of it went off/mouldy and had to be thrown.
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Remember seeing a photo of a wheelie bin overflowing with tins of unopened food. Someone commented that two of the tins were supermarket own label beans which only changed its labelling a month before! They have 2 plus years shelf life
 
Raymond Lin said:
Exhibit A.

See what I mean? Just outright deny any problems cannot be attributed Brexit, not even partly, not even 0.0000001%.

Just outright deny it completely.
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Exhibit A as how so many remainers are rather loose when it comes to the truth

Quite how you could read my post and conclude that I would not say that the EU/UK tariff issues weren't even responsible for '0.0000001%', or orders of magnitude greater of the issue should be beyond any reasonable person.

But when you look at the issues across the rest of Europe the conclusion should be clear.

That in out or out of the EU the Uk would currently be experiencing shortages of some fresh produce and that the UK leaving the EU isn't the key issue here and would not make that much of a difference given what we know about our closest Island neighbour in the EU
 
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Without doxing myself…I can actually go into work tomorrow and ask one of the many Buyers in the company across the country about the tomatoes or other produce issues and sourcing and what they are, these people are actually talk to our network across Europe.

So I don’t need to actually “guess” like you guys are doing and get my information from the people who does the importing…but trust me when I say, Brexit doesn’t help in the importing part.
 
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Raymond Lin said:
Without doxing myself…I can actually go into work tomorrow and ask one of the many Buyers across the country about the tomatoes or other produce issues and sourcing and what they are, these people are actually talk to our network across Europe.

So I don’t need to actually “guess” like you guys are doing and get my information from the people who does the importing…but trust me when I say, Brexit doesn’t help in the importing part.
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Without doxing yourself? For heaven sake you have you business interests, in the same name as your forum name, all plastered over the internet with your bloody mobile number!
 
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Caracus2k said:
Without doxing yourself? For heaven sake you have you business interests all plastered over the internet with your bloody mobile number!
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Wedding photography is not my only job. Otherwise speaking to buying of produce won’t exactly make sense. And why are you so, erm, irritated ?
 
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