Anyone non-panic buying?

That might be one way of doing it. So fridge shortages next!
There’s a shortage of fridges now?? **** I was looking at upgrading later in the year, will go out and see what I can get tomorrow. If I can find anything I’ll buy additional to pass to the good folks of ocuk ( for a moderate convenience payment)
 
I can't find a cucumber for love nor money, my brother lives in Paris and sent a picture of supermarket shelf full of them.
That must be a local issue then, because all the supermarkets near me are full of them. And tomatoes, and everything else.
 
It’s nothing to do with Brexit they cry.

Open your eyes folks and think about how it’s making the problems easier to deal with and then come back and let us know.

I hope you like Turnips.

Truss Lettuce was the “good old days” it would have been Truss Turnip this year. Stil, would have won even more easily.
 
Don't underestimate their ability to try!

silly selfish woman if she wants to buy in bulk she needs to go to a wholesale place or Costco.

going to a shop which primarily is for people doing their groceries , of course she should be stopped from wiping out their entire stock for her business (when there is a shortage)
 
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Honestly why do people even care about froth bait articles. You can go a few weeks without tomatoes, it’ll be fine, honest.
 
That must be a local issue then, because all the supermarkets near me are full of them. And tomatoes, and everything else.

It is odd how its so regional, as we've had extremely limited availability for a while moving to nothing at all lately. I took a pic last week of completely empty shelves before the story even broke.
 
unpalatable truth - brexit contribution to Irish food shortages pales into insignificance versus role in poor policemans shooting ( Boris/DUP hope you sleep well)

I cannot tell if you are being serious or just trying to annoy people.

Dissident republicans have been shooting people for decades, and under their original organisations were doing it before the EU even existed.

Fair enough, Brexit may have annoyed them even more, but they would happily shoot people anyway, especially if those people serve in the Police or other security services.
 
It is odd how its so regional, as we've had extremely limited availability for a while moving to nothing at all lately. I took a pic last week of completely empty shelves before the story even broke.
It’s been on and off since covid in some form or another. It’s first World problems that’ll sort themselves out.
 
It is odd how its so regional, as we've had extremely limited availability for a while moving to nothing at all lately. I took a pic last week of completely empty shelves before the story even broke.
Yeah I remember posting a couple of months ago about there being no frozen broccoli in any of the local supermarkets, and everyone else saying there was plenty where they were. Cucumbers were 10p off in our Sainsburys yesterday, they had so many of the bloody things! :p
 
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It’s been on and off since covid in some form or another. It’s first World problems that’ll sort themselves out.
of course it is... but then we are (just about) a 1st world country. I mean everything is small potatoes depending on how you frame it (compared to living in the Ukraine who cares about anything, the increased price of everything, runaway inflation, GPU shortages, new car shortages all of it is is short term).

but the fact remains compared to what certainly I am used to, empty shelves in supermarket and over 50% increases in price for staple produces sucks monkeyballs ino
 
of course it is... but then we are (just about) a 1st world country. I mean everything is small potatoes depending on how you frame it (compared to living in the Ukraine who cares about anything, the increased price of everything, runaway inflation, GPU shortages, new car shortages all of it is is short term).

but the fact remains compared to what certainly I am used to, empty shelves in supermarket and over 50% increases in price for staple produces sucks monkeyballs ino
It does but that’s life. Everything has been topsy turvy since Covid, but you’ll be fine, I will be fine and so will pretty much everyone on this forum.
It’s just an inconvenience.
 
Without sounding judgemental, wouldn't it be better for the planet to eat as much locally sourced produce as possible?


How dare you suggest something so pragmatic and sensible when in reality this Tory government should be able to control the weather in other countries.
 
Without sounding judgemental, wouldn't it be better for the planet to eat as much locally sourced produce as possible?
Depends - I'd rather steam roll over others flora and fauna to create farm land than our own. That's 200 IQ patriotism.
 
Without sounding judgemental, wouldn't it be better for the planet to eat as much locally sourced produce as possible?

Yes it would. However those (@n111ck ) that claim this won’t tell us what they eat.

Also they seem to think it’s better to get food from far flung corners of the world rather than a country next door. All whilst making it harder for our farmers to actually farm.

It’s almost like they aren’t reasonable.
 
How dare you suggest something so pragmatic and sensible when in reality this Tory government should be able to control the weather in other countries.
A lot of comments about not being able to control the weather in Spain, but that's not the reason there is a shortage in the UK but not the EU. There is Morocco's trade deal with the EU is more important to Morocco than it's deal with the UK, plus the polytunnels in Kent which have lost their EU workers, as well as the energy prices in the UK being mental. All 3 issues being Brexit-related.

 
A lot of comments about not being able to control the weather in Spain, but that's not the reason there is a shortage in the UK but not the EU. There is Morocco's trade deal with the EU is more important to Morocco than it's deal with the UK, plus the polytunnels in Kent which have lost their EU workers, as well as the energy prices in the UK being mental. All 3 issues being Brexit-related.



already debunked in this thread yesterday and providing a source called 'theneweuropean' blaming Brexit just lol
 
Without sounding judgemental, wouldn't it be better for the planet to eat as much locally sourced produce as possible?

Generally no unfortunately, at least if you consider the UK.
More impact would be from the correct seasonal products being consumed rather than the direct locality. (Because seasonality in effect would limit the consumption range by default)

Most regions in the UK are better suited to limited range of production, so they tend to specialise in them. Cheap and plentiful fuel and water etc somewhat reduced those geographic limitations, expect them to come back more and more.
Plus of course economies of scale come from planting and being able to harvest large quantities in one go.

Most farm shops are in fact outlets for locally produced where its available but the rest just comes from a wholesaler typically.
Volume is key here. They fail most of the volume tests and if they did have enough volume they would cause other supply issues anyway.

Much locally produced is actually grossly inefficiently distributed compared to national retailers.
Its actually really interesting when you dig into the real carbon footprint of food and the assumptions people make.

Eg a small egg producer who may supply some local farm shops can have a higher carbon cost per egg than a national distribution chain that has massive efficiencies of scale.
Eg compare someone who loads up their car boot with a few hundred eggs driving 15-20 miles to supply a few local shops. Vs an HGV that may drive hundreds of miles, but with many tens of thousands of eggs on it.
Thats ignoring all the inefficient supply chain up until that point, all carbon incurring, small scale deliveries of feed, of medicines, of packaging etc.

People were getting a bit confused on the supply chains yesterday.
Most of the supply to the Eu and the the UK and ROI were typically predominantly overland from places like morocco.
As such its not hard to understand why when there is a shortage the closest market that will pay the highest value will be served first. The large UK retailers are typically the lowest payers, and any contracts will have get out clauses for, dun dun dun, weather.
Historically the ROI used the UK as its main import hub to and from the EU. There have been a few more direct ferry routes setup / scaled up, but fundamentally the ROI achieves benefits of scale by being closely linked to the UK.
ANY supply issue to / from the UK, will likely have a knock on effect to the ROI, certainly in the short term.
 
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