Anyone Using an Asus DSL-AC68U

cuke2u · 3 Jun 2015 at 19:49

Agreed, with all of the 'willingness' of the Asus rep, and OC, to co-operate and fix this dogs dinner of a device they have, sadly, let everyone down. The, 'so-called' beta firmware doesn't totally fix the issues and all it does is introduce more. Asus should be ashamed of themselves and the sad thing is that they now seem to have given up themselves as well now.
I still use mine, but only as an expensive access point, and now I do not have the confidence to go and purchase anymore 'one box solutions'.

Ayahuasca · 3 Jun 2015 at 19:56

So just to confirm plugging the DSL into the HG612 and linking the DSL-AC68U to it with an ethernet cable provides a much more stable connection?

I'm tempted to try it but then I may as well just get my money back and buy a separate router.

My HG612 is a 3B version.

stringyb92 · 3 Jun 2015 at 20:13

Ayahuasca said:
So just to confirm plugging the DSL into the HG612 and linking the DSL-AC68U to it with an ethernet cable provides a much more stable connection?

I'm tempted to try it but then I may as well just get my money back and buy a separate router.

My HG612 is a 3B version.

What instability are you getting?

If i was you i would just buy a cheap HG612 and plug this in.

Ayahuasca · 3 Jun 2015 at 20:17

I've already got a HG612.

I'm getting thousands of CRC errors within a few hours uptime and also getting the other errors Ixel wrote about on the last page which affect DLM.

michty_me · 3 Jun 2015 at 20:24

It will be as stable as you can get unless you have a bad line.

stringyb92 · 3 Jun 2015 at 20:28

Ayahuasca said:
I've already got a HG612.

I'm getting thousands of CRC errors within a few hours uptime and also getting the other errors Ixel wrote about on the last page which affect DLM.

Could you send me the info Ixel sent to you to check the stats for what effects DLM

Ayahuasca · 3 Jun 2015 at 20:30

You'll have to ask him for that as he told me not to hand it out to anyone.

stringyb92 · 3 Jun 2015 at 20:34

Ayahuasca said:
You'll have to ask him for that as he told me not to hand it out to anyone.

That is fine but thanks anyway.

I just struggle to believe that this Asus router is that bad and unstable compared to all the others. I am in two minds over this

Ayahuasca · 3 Jun 2015 at 20:39

If it wasn't that bad you wouldn't see so many people returning them or the need for multiple firmware versions to try and "fix it"

stringyb92 · 3 Jun 2015 at 21:18

Ayahuasca said:
If it wasn't that bad you wouldn't see so many people returning them or the need for multiple firmware versions to try and "fix it"

I completely understand your point. It obviously has its flaws but most products do. I think it all depends on the quality of your line for if the router is a success for you or not.

I get quite a lot of crc errors but not as many as people have reported but I have read that this could be down to many things such as game consoles or even network wiring.

spacemonkey · 3 Jun 2015 at 21:37

It appears that this router is only causing issues for users with marginal connections.
I have a decent connection but was using poor modems/routers before the
Asus.
Since installing the Asus I have been very pleased with the performance on the latest 5007 firmware which after 5 days interleaved by DLM went back to fastpath and has stayed there for 17 days. Stats below.

Code:

outDiscards=51657
inDiscards=547
outBytes=3270231913
inBytes=2551575987
outPkts=18923773
inPkts=37019442
fwVer= FwVer:5.5.1.128_B_A60901 HwVer:T14.F7_0.2

lineState=up
Opmode=ITU G.993.2(VDSL2)
SNRMarginDown=11.2 dB
AttenDown=3.7 dB
SNRMarginUp=22.2 dB
AttenUp=7.7 dB
DataRateDown=79999 kbps
DataRateUp=19999 kbps
WanListMode=1
FECDown=0
FECUp=5094
CRCDown=270
CRCUp=495
HECDown=0
HECUp=0
ADSLUpTime=17 days, 17:28, 25 secs
ADSLActiveTime=0 min, 17 secs
PowerDown=12.1 dbm
PowerUp=-8.6 dbm
ATURID=26005443434e0000
ATUCID=b5004244434da485
AttainUp=37664
AttainDown=113068
ShowtimeStart=17
TotalStart=100
ATURANSIRev=0
ATUCANSIRev=0
ATURANSIStd=0
ATUCANSIStd=0
InterleaveDepth=1
AdslStandard=VDSL2
AdslType=ANNEX_B
mtenStandard=G.dmt.bisplus (Annex L)
admin@DSL-AC68U:/tmp/home/root#

I was a little worried getting this in the first place because the chipset was
a mediatek dsl chipset and I was connected to a Huawei Dslam which uses a Broadcom dsl chipset but decided to give it ago because the line was good.
It turns out I seem to have been ok.
If you are going to stop using the Asus may I suggest you try to use a modem with a chipset that matches the Dslam you are connected to because I know it will work better.
For example the Fritzbox 7490 should work well connected to an ECI Dslam because they use the Lantiq dsl chipset.
If you are connecting to a Huawei Dslam then user a modem/router with
a Broadcom chipset like the HG612.
I know in the old days when BT started installing the Dslams they were Huawei and they used to hand out modems with the same chpset which was Broadcom.
They then started installing ECI cabinets and handing out a modem with a Lantiq chipset to match the cabinet and then Huawei cabinets again.
I knoiw none of us should even have to worry about which chipsets we
are using but there are so many variables involved here it is always best to
try to simplify things which is why I have suggested the above.

Ixel · 3 Jun 2015 at 21:42

stringyb92 said:
That is fine but thanks anyway.

I just struggle to believe that this Asus router is that bad and unstable compared to all the others. I am in two minds over this

Send me a trust message and I'll happily email you the details.

As for the ASUS DSL-AC68U, I think it's pretty much a sensitivity problem unfortunately. I agree, those with bad or less than good quality lines are likely to suffer on the ASUS DSL-AC68U unfortunately.

Ayahuasca · 3 Jun 2015 at 21:50

How do I get the HG612 working with the ASUS as a router?

Plugged it all together and it's not working.

michty_me · 3 Jun 2015 at 22:02

I can't remember off the top of my head but you have to go into it and make a few changes. It took a few tries to figure out. I can check later but it involves changing a drop down box from DSL to Ethernet wan.

Did you manage to update the HG612?

simoncraddock · 3 Jun 2015 at 22:09

Ayahuasca said:
How do I get the HG612 working with the ASUS as a router?

Plugged it all together and it's not working.

From memory the screenshot shows where you need to look, but disable dual wan.

stringyb92 · 3 Jun 2015 at 23:20

Ixel said:
Send me a trust message and I'll happily email you the details.

As for the ASUS DSL-AC68U, I think it's pretty much a sensitivity problem unfortunately. I agree, those with bad or less than good quality lines are likely to suffer on the ASUS DSL-AC68U unfortunately.

I think I've sent a trust message

Ayahuasca · 3 Jun 2015 at 23:49

Sod it, reset the ASUS to factory settings and leaving it as it is. Probably doing more harm than good constantly messing with it.

stringyb92 · 4 Jun 2015 at 01:36

spacemonkey said:
It appears that this router is only causing issues for users with marginal connections.
I have a decent connection but was using poor modems/routers before the
Asus.
Since installing the Asus I have been very pleased with the performance on the latest 5007 firmware which after 5 days interleaved by DLM went back to fastpath and has stayed there for 17 days. Stats below.

Code:

outDiscards=51657 inDiscards=547 outBytes=3270231913 inBytes=2551575987 outPkts=18923773 inPkts=37019442 fwVer= FwVer:5.5.1.128_B_A60901 HwVer:T14.F7_0.2 lineState=up Opmode=ITU G.993.2(VDSL2) SNRMarginDown=11.2 dB AttenDown=3.7 dB SNRMarginUp=22.2 dB AttenUp=7.7 dB DataRateDown=79999 kbps DataRateUp=19999 kbps WanListMode=1 FECDown=0 FECUp=5094 CRCDown=270 CRCUp=495 HECDown=0 HECUp=0 ADSLUpTime=17 days, 17:28, 25 secs ADSLActiveTime=0 min, 17 secs PowerDown=12.1 dbm PowerUp=-8.6 dbm ATURID=26005443434e0000 ATUCID=b5004244434da485 AttainUp=37664 AttainDown=113068 ShowtimeStart=17 TotalStart=100 ATURANSIRev=0 ATUCANSIRev=0 ATURANSIStd=0 ATUCANSIStd=0 InterleaveDepth=1 AdslStandard=VDSL2 AdslType=ANNEX_B mtenStandard=G.dmt.bisplus (Annex L) admin@DSL-AC68U:/tmp/home/root#

I was a little worried getting this in the first place because the chipset was
a mediatek dsl chipset and I was connected to a Huawei Dslam which uses a Broadcom dsl chipset but decided to give it ago because the line was good.
It turns out I seem to have been ok.
If you are going to stop using the Asus may I suggest you try to use a modem with a chipset that matches the Dslam you are connected to because I know it will work better.
For example the Fritzbox 7490 should work well connected to an ECI Dslam because they use the Lantiq dsl chipset.
If you are connecting to a Huawei Dslam then user a modem/router with
a Broadcom chipset like the HG612.
I know in the old days when BT started installing the Dslams they were Huawei and they used to hand out modems with the same chpset which was Broadcom.
They then started installing ECI cabinets and handing out a modem with a Lantiq chipset to match the cabinet and then Huawei cabinets again.
I knoiw none of us should even have to worry about which chipsets we
are using but there are so many variables involved here it is always best to
try to simplify things which is why I have suggested the above.

After you went from interleaved to fastpath what was your interleaved depth on the telnet. I am currently nearly 9 days uptime and even thought my Asus stats page says fastpath I still have quite a high interleaved depth which I am hoping over time goes down. Also what are your dsl settings

stringyb92 · 4 Jun 2015 at 01:37

Ayahuasca said:
Sod it, reset the ASUS to factory settings and leaving it as it is. Probably doing more harm than good constantly messing with it.

I am getting close to that myself and biting that bullet. Please tell me how you get on

spacemonkey · 4 Jun 2015 at 07:27

stringyb92 said:
After you went from interleaved to fastpath what was your interleaved depth on the telnet. I am currently nearly 9 days uptime and even thought my Asus stats page says fastpath I still have quite a high interleaved depth which I am hoping over time goes down. Also what are your dsl settings

Interleave depth should be 1 when on fastpath.
My router settings are all factory defaults apart from, ESNP set to stable
which I don't really think I need, so for me the defaults should all work fine.