Caporegime
Anyone using Wegovy?
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Caporegime
2 x 8oz steaks in 1 day is not enough to keep me full, dairy gives me the **** as I am lactose sensitive. I also have to follow the laws of physics, calories have to go somewhere if I eat enough meat to keep me full and they tend to go on my belly.
What worked is to create a calorie deficit, whilst eating a balanced diet. As I said, I went from over 15st down to 11st once in about 6 months. It has creeped back up as I started to snack but any form of dieting is useless since it’s not what I normally eat. I just eat normal, but less.
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Soldato
2x 8 oz steaks is like 900kcal.
Who say to eat only 2x 8oz steak in a day?
You can skip the dairy, no issues its not required only my personal choice.
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Caporegime
8oz steak x2
100g butter for basting (just use 50g each meal)
You said that you can eat and eat and not get fat because you won't be there eating 3000 calories of meat (and yoghurt), and then later clarified that because of the meat, you will be full a lot faster and you won't be actually eating buckets load of meat.
I simply illustrated that 8oz stead cooked with some butter (instead of yoghurt) is not that much food, and together has enough calories for the day, and I can eat 3000 cal of meat and dairy quite easily...throw in some peppercorn sauce (easily add a couple hundred calories). So how does one actually get into this calorie deficit to be full by eating nothing but meat?
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Soldato
8oz steak x2
100g butter for basting (just use 50g each meal)
You said that you can eat and eat and not get fat because you won't be there eating 3000 calories of meat (and yoghurt), and then later clarified that because of the meat, you will be full a lot faster and you won't be actually eating buckets load of meat.
I simply illustrated that 8oz stead cooked with some butter (instead of yoghurt) is not that much food, and together has enough calories for the day. So how does one actually get into this calorie deficit to be full by eating nothing but meat?
An 8oz steak is not 615kcal
and 100g of butter are you insane or what, a pack of butter is 250g, you are using almost half a pack of butter?
Yes you will feel full much easier on a high fat/protien diet. Its also more expensive to digest, it also is used in the body.
I also mentioned before 1kcal is not 1kcal. All these calculations mean nothing really, the margin for error is too high.. You can only compare for similar foods
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Caporegime
No, I am using 1/5th a packet, 50g each to cook each steak to bast. I did write (use 50g each meal)
As for 8oz isn't 615 calories...
If I check MyFitnessPal, it gives a massive range, and funny that the lowest 2 are from both from ASDA. less than 200 calories from a steak..I wish it was.
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Caporegime
Weird, whenever I’ve had advice from hospital nutrionists about a weight gain diet, steak, eggs and yoghurt have always been among the foods recommended
That's some serious activity, nice one!
Couple of things....
1. calorie's burnt according to watches/apps is a vague estimate - usually up to 50% over reality.
2. you don't do more/less exercise to gain/lose weight - you eat more/less.
So to answer your question, there is literally only one thing you can do - eat less. no argument.
Caporegime
I am giving a lot of leeway in terms of "not all calories are the same", but I also know that no matter how true that is, there is no way that 3000 calories of steak, cheese and dairy is not going to make me fat. That sentence can only go so far. Which honestly, 3000 cal is easily achieved with meat and dairy as they are high calorie foods.
There is also the part of me that feel we all have to follow the laws of physics, which is energy cannot be created or destroyed, only can be converted. So if those calories are not burn off in terms of exercise or pooped out, it is going to go somewhere, and that is my belly.
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nonsense, you can lose weight eating nothing but mcdonalds
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100% aware of that - hence the other comments around 16:8 IF and low carb, with restricted snacking as well. Just the diet side alone wasn't working for me which is why I started the exercise regimen as well - but the weight's just not shifting.
Yea, 1 Hamburger per day.
depends on your personal calorie reqs
I guarantee if you eat less food, at any time of the day and in any ration carbs/fat/protein you will lose weight.
Weight loss is simple, very difficult for a lot of people but simple none the less...
Use a food tracking app like my fitness pal, set yourself a calorie target, say 2k cals a day, track EVERYTHING, down to the milk in your tea, eat 2k cals, no more/no less.
pick a weigh day, weigh yourself as soon as you get up and after the toilet, do the same a week later., if you have gained or not lost, repeat, but this time at 1800 cals. and so on , until you are losing 1lb a week. job done.
As i said, simple, just difficult, cos its food right and we all love it!
Edit: exercise is optional, but DO NOT increase cals due to the supposed cals burned according to your watch/app. see them as bonus losses
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Story of my life tbf. I often look around in restaurants at other peoples' plates and wonder how many bites it'd take me to finish their food.
Most people will not feel satiated eating McDonalds, and long term you will not beat the hunger cravings. Hormones like Leptin and Ghrelin will make you feel hungry and you will not beat those cravings. Eating a diet high in protein and fats will make you feel fuller for longer, meaning you'll eat less. So while you're right about calorie intake dictating net weight loss/gain, the reality is just that it will be much harder for someone to over eat on a high protein diet. And yes, in the past I've basically gotten a 6 pack while fitting a 16" pizza and a tub of Ben and Jerrys in my diet every week.
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agree 100% - but some people would rather starve and have their cals for lunch in chocolate than eat something they consider to be bland. we just need to keep it simple for some people.