Apple vs Samsung, court orders Samsung to show Apple 5 new phones

I don't quite understand why Apple fans think having an old man think their tablet is 'cool' is a good thing. When you were a teenager and your dad said something looked 'cool', did it make you want to use/wear it more or less?
 
UK court: Apple not required to publicly admit Samsung didn't copy iPad, for now

According to Bloomberg, Apple has been granted a stay on an embarassing ruling that called for the company to issue a statement on its UK website admitting that Samsung did not copy the iPad's design. Just over a week ago, Judge Colin Birss ordered Apple to make the admission both online (where it would need to remain visible for six months) and in a number of British newspapers, but a London court today ruled in favor of delaying such a public shaming until Apple has the chance to argue its appeal in October. The company maintains that displaying such a notice would essentially act as free advertising for a major competitor. "No company likes to refer to a rival on its website," said Apple's lawyer Richard Hacon following the initial ruling. Of course, Apple could very well lose its appeal and be forced to honor the original, humbling punishment. For now, though, it can shift focus back to the US as both sides prepare for yet another high-profile courtroom confrontation.

http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/26/3189070/uk-court-grants-apple-stay-samsung-ipad-design
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I knew they'd get a stay on that. :p

Judge sanctions Samsung for destroying evidence in infringement case against Apple

A federal judge in California has sanctioned Samsung for destroying e-mail evidence in its ongoing patent infringement case with Apple. In an order issued Wednesday, Magistrate Judge Paul Grewal wrote that Samsung "failed to prevent the destruction of relevant evidence" that Apple could have used in court, claiming that the Korea-based company could have done more to preserve company e-mails. As a result, Grewal granted Apple's request for an "adverse jury instruction," and agreed to inform jury members that Samsung improperly handled evidence.

Under Samsung's current system, all company e-mails are destroyed after two weeks, unless saved by employees. Samsung instructed employees to save relevant e-mails, but Judge Grewal said the company never verified that its orders were being followed. The judge also pointed out that Samsung could have disabled the system altogether. Instead, the manufacturer continued to automatically delete potentially significant e-mails even after the court case had already been filed.

"In effect, Samsung kept the shredder on long after it should have known about this litigation," Grewal wrote. The judge was careful to note that Samsung may not have acted in bad faith, though he did criticize the company for taking a "mend it don't end it" approach to its auto-delete e-mail system. His order also leaves it up to the jury to decide whether Samsung's infraction is critical to their verdict.

A Samsung spokesman said the company plans to appeal Grewal's order, noting that an ITC judge ruled in its favor after Apple filed similar accusations earlier this year.

http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/26/3187783/judge-sanctions-samsung-apple-patent-trial-evidence
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Naughty Samsung. ;)
 
dear god, poor chap. Is he from the David Icke forum ? some of the posters on there are somewhat unwell.

I didn't quite understand these two though:

- the iPhone is heavy and built strong
- it doesn't have a removable battery or SD card because it adds weight and it's better not to have them.
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Surely adding an SD card would be good for the weight would it not ? :)

Seriously, I really hope that is a wind up..
 
Crafty said:
Meanwhile in Germany Apple lost their appeal: http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/26/apple-denied-galaxy-nexus-and-tab-ban-in-germany/
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Good stuff... hopefully another step towards Apple actually innovating and inventing again rather than resorting to the pitiful display of "competing" in the courts they've resorted to of late.

Would get rather boring if the only company that was actually doing anything new was Google as unfortunately Apple were probably better at it when they can be bothered.
 
englishpremier said:
It's odd that Google haven't leaped to the defence of Samsung, when just last year was it, they transferred some patents across to HTC in order to help them out in a court case.
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Probably because Google have no ammo. Google have just started to build up their patent portfolio but most of ones they have bought are useless. MM was a complete waste of money as nearly all their patents are FRAND, something which Samsung have plenty of. If you invent something worthwhile then it's forced to become a FRAND but if you patent something that obvious then you are in line to make billions- that's the world we live in!

This patent war will cause huge problems going forward as the whole IT industry will be controlled by a few players. No company in the west will be able to make it as they will be sued out of existence.
 
Reading that document that Samsung are submitting, it looks like have most of the bases covered.

Lol at Apple referring to their phone as "sony-style" - that might come back to bite them.

As well might this:

Apple argues in the alternative that Samsung‘s proposed royalty is not fair and reasonable,
19 but Samsung‘s opening offer to Apple is consistent with the royalty rates other companies charge
20 for use of their standards-essential patents. Moreover, Apple never even made a counteroffer.
21 Instead, it simply rejected Samsung‘s opening offer, refused to negotiate further and to this day
22 has not paid Samsung a dime for Apple‘s use of Samsung‘s standards-essential technology.
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