it's certainly a bit more casual than the other main extraction shooters - couple of reasons for that imo - the arc are novel, and add a somewhat different dimension to what the other extraction shooters do that use human characters for the AI. Then there's the tpp, helps a lot to entice more casual players but it's utterly gash for those that are used to fpp extraction shooters.
Thats why I dont think Embark will be too distraught about the way the game goes. Currently they are the top game in the genre and I dont foresee any other title dislodging them from being the top game in their genre. I think most companies will be very happy to be the no.1 title in their field, its probably the first desire of a title.
expedition and next update are critical to the survival of the game imo - the winter pack needs to deliver, the expedition needs to be a success and they HAVE to fix some of these basic issues like the server performance and clipping through environment.
What is the criteria by which you would say the game has no longer survived?
If it fails to return to Speranza.
to me the game has died when it gets to the point where so few are playing it takes an annoying about of time to get in a game.
Yup the cracks are showing, there's a pretty big list of issues now, they are slow on fixes and there have been a number of issues where the fixes have just further broken the game which means overall their testing is...well I honestly don't think it exists.
Thanks, these things are handy to know, people often bandy around words like dead game, wont survive, etc, but never actually quantify what they mean by that. Arc still is achieving 8 to 10 times the number of players of any other PvPvE extraction game currently and titles like No Mans Sky and CoD Warzone have lost 90%+ of their player base since release but I personally dont consider either of them to have died. So I'm always interested in what criteria people use.
excuse me?
Maybe I wasnt clear enough, hang on, let me clarify....you suggest that the winter patch is critical to the games survival, thereby suggesting that if that update isnt good enough, the game wont survive. So I'm just asking what criteria do you use to decide that the game has failed to survive.
maybe you are unable to read my post correctly - what is so hard to understand?
indeed. note this is just my view and I am no arbiter of what is dead or not
Thats possible, what did you mean by "critical to its survival" , I had assumed that by that you meant it wouldnt survive if the update wasnt good enough?
correct, sorry but i fail to see what you don't understand or want to pick an argument over?
Thanks, just saw your edit above , so your criteria is once the game has no-one at all playing it. Fair enough, thanks. As I said earlier, its handy to know what the boundaries are that people use for defining if a game is dead or not, as like in the examples I gave earlier there are games who have lost 90% of their playerbase that I wouldnt say are dead. Good to know what definitions people are using, thanks
yeah ok if you say so fella, what a strange interaction.Thanks, just saw your edit above , so your criteria is once the game has no-one at all playing it. Fair enough, thanks. As I said earlier, its handy to know what the boundaries are that people use for defining it a game is dead or not, as like in the examples I gave earlier there are games who have lost 90% of their playerbase that I wouldnt say are dead. Good to know what definitions people are using, thanks
Its not me picking an argument, I just like to be sure what people mean when they use specific language or whether they are just being hyperbolic. Your definition is actually the same as mine, I dont think a game is dead until its lost 99% of its playerbase, so we're actually on the same page in definitions
Lol, dont fret too much on it, I'm just someone who places a lot of importance on communication and clarity of whats being said, for me in life, clear communication and understanding of the meanings of whats being said is an important thing. I do know though that a lot of people dont put as much emphasis on their use of language so probably does seem odd to many folk. Thats fine
